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blast off on another

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epic episode of hero paranormal podcast

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my name is ryan

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the original outlaw of the airwaves

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we're broadcasting from the base at la

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madre mountain just south of area 51 and

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we're bringing you an epic episode today

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on today's episode we have mark robinson

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who has been in the game of treasure

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hunting

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cryptozoology and everything that is

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high strangeness in utah since as long

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as i can remember i remember being just

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a kid

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and being invited to these gatherings

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where the brightest the best and the

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most intense researchers in the state of

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utah were coming together and talking

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about spanish gold

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artifacts bigfoot ufos and anything that

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was strange different or outside of the

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cultural norm

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but witnessed within the boundaries of

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the state of utah and sometimes outside

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the boundaries of the state of utah

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it is a real pleasure to have mark

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robinson on the podcast he's

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as good as a guest as you can guess

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and uh

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i'm i'm very excited

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so without further ado my man mark

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robinson welcome to the hero paranormal

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podcast how you doing

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i'm doing good

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good good this is going to be a great

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conversation i can't wait to get into it

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well i hope i don't disappoint ryan i

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mean you know

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hardly hardly i was just uh

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thinking you know as long as i can

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and i've been around this planet a

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little while 47 years and as long as i

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can remember mark

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you've been involved

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and uh promoting and getting

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a group of guys together and girls

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whoever the best and brightest minds

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within the state of utah and sometimes

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discussing

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treasure hunting spanish gold bigfoot

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ufos anything high strangeness in the

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state of utah you've kind of always been

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there and

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i've all

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it's been a while and i've always i

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remember going out to morgan utah there

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meeting you the first time and i was

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blown away you've been in this game a

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long time

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and kind of behind the scenes always

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getting people together to talk about in

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my opinion the most interesting things

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happening within the state of utah how

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how did you get started along this path

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because it's a motivator for me

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yeah well you know ryan it's the

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dangerous thing

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some a friend of mine from high school

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in college we're best friends with each

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and then marriage happens and kids

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happen we we lost each other for all a

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long time i looked up one day and there

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he was and he we took off went for a

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ride and had seen each other forever

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he goes mark you can't eat these books

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these books well there was a writer a

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local writer in utah he's been

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gotten a car wreck in like 1990

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something

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anyway he wrote a bunch of books and we

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just got into these books and they and

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they were it was

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virtually all of it utah

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and we just got into it big time

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i i heard i didn't know anything about

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his name was george thompson

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and uh i heard he lived in the town that

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i lived in time

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and this was like pre-cell phone time

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few guys had them but mostly nobody so

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i was out and about and i

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went and looked went to a phone booth

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you know and looked it up and there he

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was i mean there was this number

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one and he's only a mile away from where

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i was so i drove over

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and i thought wonder which house well

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here's this house with

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mining stuff all over and i went back

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and called him you see come on over

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so we we was chasing some stuff down his

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books were great

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and the good stuff he would tell you how

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to get there

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but you couldn't get there i mean he

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didn't want you there but he wanted you

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to write you know read his books

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so we i went over and we had

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it was a butch cassidy

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and uh it was out in the middle of

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nowhere out in the uh centerfield swell

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which is is

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a part of the grand canyon it just comes

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you know all through utah

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and we he went over his and he wasn't

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terribly friendly but he was reasonably

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friendly and he goes well what are you

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looking for and i said well we're

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looking for this butch guess he says

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where do you think it is and i said well

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we think it's right here

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and i quote he goes oh good hell you're

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100 miles away

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and i thought you're kidding we went

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exactly anyway he told me how to get

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there and he was right on

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and i've tried to find it a couple times

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and the uh the environmentalists are

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you cannot get get there anymore we

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drove right in and had to hike and now

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you can't now you've got to go from

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another direction and i can't find it

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again but cabins and

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a couple of old cabins and

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and it was and so that's kind of what

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really we just kind of got

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taken by it it was just kind of a

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like you know like you caught a cold or

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something you couldn't get rid of but

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that's kind of what started it and then

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it kind of evolved from there

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we met a guy a friend of mine one of the

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three of us that would go out

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he goes mark and we had

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well no we hadn't started we

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this guy he they go mark we you got to

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meet this guy so i said well let's yeah

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i mean indiana jones had nothing on him

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we we went and met at this friend of

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mine shop

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little room that they would go the plans

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and wayne comes in he's got all these

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maps under his arms introduced how you

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doing good unit

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how dangerous you want to make this

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and we looked at each other the two of

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my one we looked at each other like are

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you kidding

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and he wasn't kidding

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and it wasn't some old spanish map it

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was his

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but he had written all over it

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there's chicks there's circles there's

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stars there's stuff all over it from the

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uintas up here in utah

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necessarily volunteer

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anything but he would tell you if you

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asked him he would go oh yeah this is

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blah blah blah and so i'm going along

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and i go uh

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well wayne what is this and goes oh

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that's the spanish mine we found and see

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we were early in the game spanish might

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yeah there was nothing in that one

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oh okay so we're going along well what

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about this and he goes well that was a

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cannon we found stuck in the ground

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and he goes yeah is it still there oh

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i'm sure it was we didn't care about it

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we wanted the gold and it would just go

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i mean he just did and we got to be real

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one funny thing we got his number after

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and i would call him i'm the one that

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got really close to him

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came right out of his mouth uh his wife

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would be there he was a contractor i'm a

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you got the right times you could get

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and we would go to his house which

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wasn't all that far away just

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just down out of kind of a little town

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so we go there meet there with wayne and

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wayne get all excited wayne told me once

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he would go out and through the winners

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uh and they were on horses so they

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really could cover a lot of ground

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you know i'm going to go any i think he

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was a shoestring relation to these two

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and that from what i understand they're

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crazy buggers but

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they he said i'm going to go meet up

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with them and i'll see you uh you know a

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few days okay be careful you know don't

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don't kill yourself

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wayne didn't come back for 10 weeks

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he was up there for 10 weeks

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and i said well wayne

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and he said yeah we cut kind of got it

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on a roll

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his wife all but

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and i t he never explained he never told

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admitted but he told i think this is

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what pretty much killed wayne's

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prospecting uh

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you know endeavors and then we come in

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and we get him all pumped up because we

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were pumped up and that's why she hated

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our guts

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but we would come over and he would go

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get his maps and stuff

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excited and he would tell us this that

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and some of these he got into some

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pretty amazing places

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we we never did get to go out with him

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but we tried

285
00:10:56,790 --> 00:10:55,040
and you know schedules and stuff

286
00:10:59,030 --> 00:10:56,800
and we all had families and he had

287
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pretty much his family's kind of raised

288
00:11:02,470 --> 00:11:00,720
and gone and

289
00:11:03,910 --> 00:11:02,480
and uh

290
00:11:06,470 --> 00:11:03,920
a friend of mine

291
00:11:08,230 --> 00:11:06,480
this is how the powwow started

292
00:11:10,470 --> 00:11:08,240
i'm a contractor i was building my own

293
00:11:13,670 --> 00:11:10,480
house and there was a guy that came

294
00:11:15,829 --> 00:11:13,680
around and now you've met kids

295
00:11:17,590 --> 00:11:15,839
well kent was the inspector for the

296
00:11:19,670 --> 00:11:17,600
county here in morgan

297
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and he would come and

298
00:11:25,670 --> 00:11:22,640
uh enter you know inspect my house and

299
00:11:27,910 --> 00:11:25,680
then we'd sit in bs for four hours after

300
00:11:30,069 --> 00:11:27,920
because cant can really can really do

301
00:11:31,910 --> 00:11:30,079
yes and uh

302
00:11:33,350 --> 00:11:31,920
and he i was telling him that wayne oh

303
00:11:35,110 --> 00:11:33,360
man i've heard about him i want to meet

304
00:11:37,190 --> 00:11:35,120
him i want to meet him so i said well

305
00:11:40,069 --> 00:11:37,200
i'll tell you what i'll just uh

306
00:11:42,310 --> 00:11:40,079
hook up a little get together and

307
00:11:44,230 --> 00:11:42,320
and i did and there was uh four of us

308
00:11:46,069 --> 00:11:44,240
wayne me

309
00:11:47,990 --> 00:11:46,079
kent and a friend of mine

310
00:11:48,949 --> 00:11:48,000
and we just sat there and

311
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and

312
00:11:58,150 --> 00:11:53,920
here you got a guy that not only had the

313
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t-shirt but he had done it and

314
00:12:01,829 --> 00:12:00,480
a couple days later i called one of my

315
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friends and i said you know that was

316
00:12:05,990 --> 00:12:03,839
really fun we had to do that some more

317
00:12:09,030 --> 00:12:06,000
and that's what started it as humble as

318
00:12:13,110 --> 00:12:09,040
that is that was four people

319
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counting me and it exploded to

320
00:12:17,350 --> 00:12:15,440
craziness

321
00:12:19,269 --> 00:12:17,360
in a million years thought it would

322
00:12:22,150 --> 00:12:19,279
and that's what's so fascinating about

323
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all this to me is just how humble you

324
00:12:26,870 --> 00:12:24,720
are and how humble this this group of

325
00:12:29,030 --> 00:12:26,880
guys that you have are you guys have

326
00:12:31,990 --> 00:12:29,040
never been in it for money never been in

327
00:12:33,750 --> 00:12:32,000
it for fame no you've never you've never

328
00:12:35,509 --> 00:12:33,760
you know

329
00:12:37,670 --> 00:12:35,519
had it function that way it's just a

330
00:12:39,590 --> 00:12:37,680
group of like-minded individuals and i

331
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was blown away with just

332
00:12:42,629 --> 00:12:40,560
how

333
00:12:45,509 --> 00:12:42,639
inviting you were the first time i mean

334
00:12:48,710 --> 00:12:45,519
this was decades ago and yeah it was a

335
00:12:50,870 --> 00:12:48,720
while a long time ago and you've hit on

336
00:12:52,230 --> 00:12:50,880
so many topics mark that you docked it

337
00:12:54,470 --> 00:12:52,240
right out of the park with the first

338
00:12:56,870 --> 00:12:54,480
question which was amazing

339
00:12:59,750 --> 00:12:56,880
i absolutely love the san rafael swell

340
00:13:02,150 --> 00:12:59,760
if nobody's been there in utah it is one

341
00:13:03,509 --> 00:13:02,160
of the isn't am i right it's just such a

342
00:13:05,910 --> 00:13:03,519
gem

343
00:13:08,310 --> 00:13:05,920
it's unreal and especially if you dive

344
00:13:09,750 --> 00:13:08,320
into the history of what has happened

345
00:13:12,389 --> 00:13:09,760
there

346
00:13:14,069 --> 00:13:12,399
and that's the big thing yeah it goes

347
00:13:16,629 --> 00:13:14,079
back a million years

348
00:13:18,470 --> 00:13:16,639
it's it's it's it's a you're like you

349
00:13:20,470 --> 00:13:18,480
said it's a gym

350
00:13:24,069 --> 00:13:20,480
it is really is

351
00:13:26,230 --> 00:13:24,079
it uh but well let me tell you so what

352
00:13:28,550 --> 00:13:26,240
so what we we started doing this the

353
00:13:30,949 --> 00:13:28,560
powwows we called it the pow wow for no

354
00:13:33,590 --> 00:13:30,959
reason there was three of us you know we

355
00:13:35,030 --> 00:13:33,600
it didn't mean anything and i talked to

356
00:13:36,790 --> 00:13:35,040
guys well i don't like i don't want to

357
00:13:40,150 --> 00:13:36,800
go to a bunch of indian stuff

358
00:13:42,710 --> 00:13:40,160
it's got nothing it's got it doesn't

359
00:13:44,949 --> 00:13:42,720
go anywhere with the indian thing it it

360
00:13:47,670 --> 00:13:44,959
doesn't disrespect it doesn't it doesn't

361
00:13:48,389 --> 00:13:47,680
anything it just it's literally just a

362
00:13:50,150 --> 00:13:48,399
word

363
00:13:51,670 --> 00:13:50,160
that stuck and now it's

364
00:13:53,990 --> 00:13:51,680
in stone

365
00:13:55,350 --> 00:13:54,000
but what happened uh

366
00:13:56,870 --> 00:13:55,360
ryan is

367
00:13:59,509 --> 00:13:56,880
so we started

368
00:14:01,430 --> 00:13:59,519
getting together quite a bit well we

369
00:14:04,310 --> 00:14:01,440
tried to do it twice a year

370
00:14:07,269 --> 00:14:04,320
and and we did that for a long time but

371
00:14:10,470 --> 00:14:07,279
i wouldn't i would call and invite wayne

372
00:14:13,910 --> 00:14:10,480
oh yeah i i but what happened wayne had

373
00:14:15,590 --> 00:14:13,920
started into uh alzheimer's

374
00:14:18,470 --> 00:14:15,600
and uh

375
00:14:20,150 --> 00:14:18,480
i don't know you know people that have

376
00:14:21,910 --> 00:14:20,160
everybody's kind of been hit with that a

377
00:14:23,750 --> 00:14:21,920
little bit i mean

378
00:14:25,269 --> 00:14:23,760
they've known somebody

379
00:14:27,110 --> 00:14:25,279
and he would say yeah and then he would

380
00:14:29,430 --> 00:14:27,120
call me mark and he's gonna go

381
00:14:30,710 --> 00:14:29,440
well here his wife and her name was

382
00:14:32,389 --> 00:14:30,720
bonnie

383
00:14:33,509 --> 00:14:32,399
she would call me because here she hated

384
00:14:35,750 --> 00:14:33,519
my guts

385
00:14:37,990 --> 00:14:35,760
for getting him so excited but now

386
00:14:40,069 --> 00:14:38,000
wayne was homebound and

387
00:14:42,710 --> 00:14:40,079
and she told me she said mark

388
00:14:44,790 --> 00:14:42,720
keep asking him i i said i will

389
00:14:46,710 --> 00:14:44,800
absolutely and i said not only that i

390
00:14:47,670 --> 00:14:46,720
will come pick him up and i'll take him

391
00:14:49,590 --> 00:14:47,680
home because

392
00:14:51,910 --> 00:14:49,600
those people of alzheimer's it kind of

393
00:14:54,389 --> 00:14:51,920
freaks them out to be around

394
00:14:56,790 --> 00:14:54,399
something they're not familiar with

395
00:14:59,670 --> 00:14:56,800
and uh

396
00:15:00,870 --> 00:14:59,680
and this kind of goes in a strange area

397
00:15:03,269 --> 00:15:00,880
so

398
00:15:05,110 --> 00:15:03,279
he he never did come back and bonnie go

399
00:15:07,189 --> 00:15:05,120
please ask i said i will i absolutely

400
00:15:08,710 --> 00:15:07,199
will invite him again so we did we

401
00:15:11,990 --> 00:15:08,720
invited him every time

402
00:15:14,470 --> 00:15:12,000
well wayne ended up passing away

403
00:15:16,790 --> 00:15:14,480
september of 03

404
00:15:19,430 --> 00:15:16,800
and the reason i remember that i

405
00:15:20,949 --> 00:15:19,440
remember calling my dad and i said dad i

406
00:15:22,310 --> 00:15:20,959
had a good friend that passed away oh

407
00:15:25,910 --> 00:15:22,320
let's do that

408
00:15:28,150 --> 00:15:25,920
so my dad passed away two months later

409
00:15:30,470 --> 00:15:28,160
three months item right in there

410
00:15:31,829 --> 00:15:30,480
and i would just by chance was going by

411
00:15:33,829 --> 00:15:31,839
his house

412
00:15:36,870 --> 00:15:33,839
and my dad had only been gone for a few

413
00:15:38,710 --> 00:15:36,880
days so i was tender i mean you would

414
00:15:40,470 --> 00:15:38,720
look at me sideways and i just couldn't

415
00:15:41,350 --> 00:15:40,480
take it i mean that's about how bad i

416
00:15:43,910 --> 00:15:41,360
was

417
00:15:44,870 --> 00:15:43,920
and i stopped by the house just to tell

418
00:15:47,030 --> 00:15:44,880
them

419
00:15:47,990 --> 00:15:47,040
you know condolences for wayne and stuff

420
00:15:54,069 --> 00:15:48,000
and

421
00:15:56,150 --> 00:15:54,079
i just tell these friends of mine i said

422
00:15:57,670 --> 00:15:56,160
i what i had done i'd stopped by to say

423
00:15:59,030 --> 00:15:57,680
you know

424
00:16:00,150 --> 00:15:59,040
and they said

425
00:16:01,670 --> 00:16:00,160
call him back

426
00:16:02,790 --> 00:16:01,680
call her back and ask if we could have

427
00:16:04,790 --> 00:16:02,800
the maps

428
00:16:06,230 --> 00:16:04,800
i said i can't do that

429
00:16:09,030 --> 00:16:06,240
and they kept bugging i said all right

430
00:16:11,030 --> 00:16:09,040
i'll try it so i called i told bonnie

431
00:16:12,790 --> 00:16:11,040
and i said you know

432
00:16:16,150 --> 00:16:12,800
would it be okay if i just kind of

433
00:16:19,670 --> 00:16:16,160
copied blaine's maps you know what mark

434
00:16:23,430 --> 00:16:21,590
well wow she's give me a week to find

435
00:16:26,310 --> 00:16:23,440
him and i said okay yeah

436
00:16:28,629 --> 00:16:26,320
a week to the second i called i did i

437
00:16:30,230 --> 00:16:28,639
can't find him and so give me another

438
00:16:32,790 --> 00:16:30,240
week so i gave

439
00:16:34,710 --> 00:16:32,800
i would just just got milked on and on

440
00:16:36,790 --> 00:16:34,720
and i think she was looking

441
00:16:38,629 --> 00:16:36,800
but i'd always when we go to this house

442
00:16:40,069 --> 00:16:38,639
you could hear him go downstairs little

443
00:16:41,430 --> 00:16:40,079
small house

444
00:16:43,189 --> 00:16:41,440
and you could hear him going under the

445
00:16:44,550 --> 00:16:43,199
steps i said bonnie just go down you

446
00:16:46,790 --> 00:16:44,560
know and i told her

447
00:16:48,870 --> 00:16:46,800
well she ended up finding everything

448
00:16:51,110 --> 00:16:48,880
called me and come get him

449
00:16:53,269 --> 00:16:51,120
but she didn't have the dang map

450
00:16:55,189 --> 00:16:53,279
she had a lot of his personal writings a

451
00:16:56,470 --> 00:16:55,199
ton of stuff well

452
00:16:58,949 --> 00:16:56,480
reasonable

453
00:17:01,030 --> 00:16:58,959
and uh she handed them to me

454
00:17:02,389 --> 00:17:01,040
and i waited i made copies i said listen

455
00:17:04,710 --> 00:17:02,399
this stuff's real important to you now

456
00:17:07,029 --> 00:17:04,720
because he's gone and i'm gonna bring it

457
00:17:09,270 --> 00:17:07,039
back and she said great that's and so i

458
00:17:11,270 --> 00:17:09,280
did i made copies of everything but i

459
00:17:13,669 --> 00:17:11,280
didn't get the dang map

460
00:17:16,230 --> 00:17:13,679
oh i tell you it just

461
00:17:17,750 --> 00:17:16,240
oh oh

462
00:17:19,829 --> 00:17:17,760
wayne

463
00:17:21,750 --> 00:17:19,839
come back and give me that map but i i

464
00:17:22,710 --> 00:17:21,760
never did get it

465
00:17:23,669 --> 00:17:22,720
and you know

466
00:17:25,590 --> 00:17:23,679
this is

467
00:17:26,630 --> 00:17:25,600
i mean it's it's like

468
00:17:28,309 --> 00:17:26,640
gold

469
00:17:30,390 --> 00:17:28,319
falling through your fingertips this

470
00:17:33,669 --> 00:17:30,400
history and the knowledge that these men

471
00:17:36,630 --> 00:17:33,679
have including yourself i find that just

472
00:17:38,789 --> 00:17:36,640
over and over again um you know reading

473
00:17:41,510 --> 00:17:38,799
the writings of gayle rhodes and kerry

474
00:17:43,590 --> 00:17:41,520
ross borden and you know so many others

475
00:17:46,470 --> 00:17:43,600
there's there's so much knowledge of the

476
00:17:48,470 --> 00:17:46,480
state of utah and you know gold in the

477
00:17:50,310 --> 00:17:48,480
land of zion and it's

478
00:17:53,110 --> 00:17:50,320
something that a lot of people just kind

479
00:17:55,669 --> 00:17:53,120
of uh they brush off as as you know old

480
00:17:56,549 --> 00:17:55,679
wives tales and things that aren't real

481
00:17:58,870 --> 00:17:56,559
but

482
00:18:01,510 --> 00:17:58,880
the evidence is there the evidence is

483
00:18:04,150 --> 00:18:01,520
there yeah and a lot of people still

484
00:18:05,750 --> 00:18:04,160
well that's bs there's no spanish here

485
00:18:10,789 --> 00:18:05,760
there's so much

486
00:18:12,549 --> 00:18:10,799
that it's not hard to find i mean you

487
00:18:15,110 --> 00:18:12,559
kind of got to get

488
00:18:18,070 --> 00:18:15,120
focused and centered and and maybe

489
00:18:19,590 --> 00:18:18,080
directive a little bit at first for sure

490
00:18:21,110 --> 00:18:19,600
uh

491
00:18:24,070 --> 00:18:21,120
well let me tell you you want another

492
00:18:24,950 --> 00:18:24,080
story about what i love i love it

493
00:18:27,110 --> 00:18:24,960
so

494
00:18:28,630 --> 00:18:27,120
how did i hear this

495
00:18:30,150 --> 00:18:28,640
it had to have been from well yeah it

496
00:18:31,990 --> 00:18:30,160
was over morning

497
00:18:33,750 --> 00:18:32,000
that when he was still

498
00:18:35,750 --> 00:18:33,760
you know pretty with it he could you

499
00:18:38,789 --> 00:18:35,760
know he could get into it with you and

500
00:18:41,990 --> 00:18:38,799
talk to you before he started losing it

501
00:18:43,110 --> 00:18:42,000
there's a place up in it's called uh

502
00:18:45,430 --> 00:18:43,120
there was a

503
00:18:46,390 --> 00:18:45,440
damn the ice caves have you ever heard

504
00:18:48,630 --> 00:18:46,400
of them

505
00:18:51,029 --> 00:18:48,640
it's not too far from where it's not too

506
00:18:52,150 --> 00:18:51,039
far from duchesne have you heard of them

507
00:18:54,390 --> 00:18:52,160
you know

508
00:18:57,270 --> 00:18:54,400
i may have heard from them but it wasn't

509
00:18:59,590 --> 00:18:57,280
a whole lot so i'm i'm i'm on the edge

510
00:19:02,230 --> 00:18:59,600
of my seat

511
00:19:04,150 --> 00:19:02,240
well the ice caves now there is a lot of

512
00:19:06,310 --> 00:19:04,160
tribal land so you

513
00:19:09,590 --> 00:19:06,320
but you know there's you just got to

514
00:19:11,110 --> 00:19:09,600
know not to go there i mean hello you

515
00:19:13,590 --> 00:19:11,120
just don't go on that indian land

516
00:19:15,430 --> 00:19:13,600
because boy you can really catch hell uh

517
00:19:16,470 --> 00:19:15,440
yeah that ain't good

518
00:19:19,669 --> 00:19:16,480
but he

519
00:19:22,230 --> 00:19:19,679
these this guy in my case and i was i

520
00:19:24,549 --> 00:19:22,240
was i still am i'm a contractor

521
00:19:26,630 --> 00:19:24,559
and that's going to come involved here

522
00:19:28,230 --> 00:19:26,640
he was telling us that they were him and

523
00:19:30,230 --> 00:19:28,240
us this guy

524
00:19:32,310 --> 00:19:30,240
and the name i thought damn that's an

525
00:19:33,830 --> 00:19:32,320
odd name and the guys that were digging

526
00:19:35,909 --> 00:19:33,840
my holes

527
00:19:37,990 --> 00:19:35,919
that was their name and i'll go into

528
00:19:41,669 --> 00:19:38,000
that but they were messing around in

529
00:19:42,630 --> 00:19:41,679
this by the ice caves this ice cave is a

530
00:19:45,430 --> 00:19:42,640
cave

531
00:19:47,590 --> 00:19:45,440
and say i'm i'm about six one and i have

532
00:19:50,390 --> 00:19:47,600
to bend over to get in it but middle of

533
00:19:52,310 --> 00:19:50,400
summer can be hunted outside and

534
00:19:55,029 --> 00:19:52,320
the spanish would put their meat in

535
00:19:57,510 --> 00:19:55,039
there and stuff stuff like that and it's

536
00:19:59,029 --> 00:19:57,520
it's ice inside there it's it's you

537
00:20:01,110 --> 00:19:59,039
don't have to go in far

538
00:20:04,310 --> 00:20:01,120
why it works that way i have no idea but

539
00:20:06,149 --> 00:20:04,320
it it keeps things cold

540
00:20:09,350 --> 00:20:06,159
it was right by that and there was an

541
00:20:11,350 --> 00:20:09,360
area there with just a ton

542
00:20:13,750 --> 00:20:11,360
ton of uh

543
00:20:15,669 --> 00:20:13,760
uh spanish writing on the trees

544
00:20:17,510 --> 00:20:15,679
and and wayne knew what the heck he was

545
00:20:19,110 --> 00:20:17,520
reading i mean he knew what he was doing

546
00:20:20,870 --> 00:20:19,120
i mean there was a ton

547
00:20:22,070 --> 00:20:20,880
and the sad thing is by the time we got

548
00:20:25,830 --> 00:20:22,080
there ryan

549
00:20:27,750 --> 00:20:25,840
there had been a beetle infant

550
00:20:29,990 --> 00:20:27,760
what's the word the beatles had attacked

551
00:20:33,510 --> 00:20:30,000
the trees there and so they clear-cut

552
00:20:36,549 --> 00:20:33,520
the whole area that oh five acres maybe

553
00:20:38,070 --> 00:20:36,559
and funny just a side note the bank of

554
00:20:40,230 --> 00:20:38,080
invernal

555
00:20:42,630 --> 00:20:40,240
went up and was cutting some of this

556
00:20:45,270 --> 00:20:42,640
spanish tree signs out of these fallen

557
00:20:47,990 --> 00:20:45,280
trees and had them in their bank

558
00:20:48,789 --> 00:20:48,000
and so anyway wayne and this guy was up

559
00:20:50,710 --> 00:20:48,799
there

560
00:20:52,789 --> 00:20:50,720
and they were following me

561
00:20:54,470 --> 00:20:52,799
well they found some kind of spanish

562
00:20:58,149 --> 00:20:54,480
something a

563
00:20:59,909 --> 00:20:58,159
helmet or something sword i don't know

564
00:21:01,510 --> 00:20:59,919
and so

565
00:21:03,990 --> 00:21:01,520
this guy

566
00:21:05,350 --> 00:21:04,000
he was an excavator his sons are my

567
00:21:08,710 --> 00:21:05,360
excavators

568
00:21:10,549 --> 00:21:08,720
and they took this d9 cat up there

569
00:21:13,190 --> 00:21:10,559
didn't get permission from anybody i'm

570
00:21:14,789 --> 00:21:13,200
telling you if they were if they

571
00:21:16,390 --> 00:21:14,799
both weren't dead

572
00:21:18,310 --> 00:21:16,400
i'm sure they'd be

573
00:21:20,310 --> 00:21:18,320
you know they'd be in trouble they cut

574
00:21:21,669 --> 00:21:20,320
their own road in

575
00:21:22,950 --> 00:21:21,679
and i

576
00:21:24,149 --> 00:21:22,960
it was funny because they named the

577
00:21:26,070 --> 00:21:24,159
guy's name

578
00:21:28,149 --> 00:21:26,080
and i was cutting a hole a couple days

579
00:21:30,470 --> 00:21:28,159
later i went up to these two brothers

580
00:21:32,230 --> 00:21:30,480
and i said hey uh you know you know

581
00:21:34,230 --> 00:21:32,240
listen they looked at me and they go

582
00:21:36,230 --> 00:21:34,240
that's our dad and he was kind of like

583
00:21:38,390 --> 00:21:36,240
why what do you want to and i told him

584
00:21:39,669 --> 00:21:38,400
the guy says i was in high school when

585
00:21:41,909 --> 00:21:39,679
that happened

586
00:21:45,190 --> 00:21:41,919
and i was the one i was with my dad and

587
00:21:47,430 --> 00:21:45,200
i was driving the cat anyway they go up

588
00:21:48,870 --> 00:21:47,440
there and they dig this hole well this

589
00:21:50,470 --> 00:21:48,880
road rather

590
00:21:53,190 --> 00:21:50,480
and wayne told me how to get there he

591
00:21:54,870 --> 00:21:53,200
was right on we went up there

592
00:21:56,830 --> 00:21:54,880
and they

593
00:21:58,549 --> 00:21:56,840
wade had gotten some

594
00:22:00,710 --> 00:21:58,559
dynamite so

595
00:22:01,830 --> 00:22:00,720
whoever knows why or how

596
00:22:04,390 --> 00:22:01,840
and he

597
00:22:07,110 --> 00:22:04,400
this lane the kid was telling me he was

598
00:22:08,230 --> 00:22:07,120
a kid then a high school kid then he

599
00:22:11,270 --> 00:22:08,240
said

600
00:22:13,750 --> 00:22:11,280
wayne went in stuck this dynamite in

601
00:22:15,830 --> 00:22:13,760
in a hole whatever they drilled

602
00:22:17,590 --> 00:22:15,840
and he comes running out this

603
00:22:19,510 --> 00:22:17,600
this middle-aged man come running out

604
00:22:22,870 --> 00:22:19,520
there just as fast as he can

605
00:22:25,909 --> 00:22:22,880
and and lane said all of a sudden cop

606
00:22:27,590 --> 00:22:25,919
and he said the whole mess it just

607
00:22:29,990 --> 00:22:27,600
they was chucking rocks the size of

608
00:22:32,549 --> 00:22:30,000
bowling balls just mowing trees down

609
00:22:34,710 --> 00:22:32,559
no permission they just did it i mean my

610
00:22:36,630 --> 00:22:34,720
word if you did that now you'd never get

611
00:22:38,310 --> 00:22:36,640
out of jail

612
00:22:40,630 --> 00:22:38,320
so as soon as the dust settles they all

613
00:22:43,029 --> 00:22:40,640
ran in and was looking around and they

614
00:22:45,909 --> 00:22:43,039
worked the area for

615
00:22:46,870 --> 00:22:45,919
a while and they never found any gold at

616
00:22:49,750 --> 00:22:46,880
all

617
00:22:53,669 --> 00:22:49,760
and this is where it gets crazy ryan

618
00:22:55,430 --> 00:22:53,679
so a friend of theirs of wayne's uh a

619
00:22:56,310 --> 00:22:55,440
you know middle-aged man one instant

620
00:22:58,549 --> 00:22:56,320
wait

621
00:23:00,950 --> 00:22:58,559
uh do you care if i take my metal

622
00:23:03,430 --> 00:23:00,960
detector through all these tailings

623
00:23:05,590 --> 00:23:03,440
and he goes no no no you you bet you go

624
00:23:07,190 --> 00:23:05,600
for it so this guy comes gets his metal

625
00:23:08,549 --> 00:23:07,200
detector he's working all these tailings

626
00:23:10,710 --> 00:23:08,559
from

627
00:23:12,789 --> 00:23:10,720
blowing up the dang mountain

628
00:23:15,110 --> 00:23:12,799
and he worked his way around the side

629
00:23:19,029 --> 00:23:15,120
now this is giving it where dried and

630
00:23:20,870 --> 00:23:19,039
i'm i i was so hot on this little part

631
00:23:23,430 --> 00:23:20,880
i'm going to tell you here i went up

632
00:23:26,070 --> 00:23:23,440
there and i couldn't find the damn thing

633
00:23:27,830 --> 00:23:26,080
but he wayne pointed on the map there it

634
00:23:29,590 --> 00:23:27,840
was right there is where he found this

635
00:23:30,950 --> 00:23:29,600
so this metal detecting guy worked his

636
00:23:32,470 --> 00:23:30,960
way around he couldn't find anything

637
00:23:34,070 --> 00:23:32,480
where they were at

638
00:23:35,590 --> 00:23:34,080
and he worked somewhere and it's steep

639
00:23:37,990 --> 00:23:35,600
it's fairly steep

640
00:23:40,149 --> 00:23:38,000
and he comes this is crazy run i'm

641
00:23:41,430 --> 00:23:40,159
telling you this is crazy but i'm just

642
00:23:42,390 --> 00:23:41,440
going to tell you

643
00:23:44,870 --> 00:23:42,400
uh

644
00:23:47,350 --> 00:23:44,880
he finds this yellow dirt

645
00:23:48,950 --> 00:23:47,360
and he thinks that is really weird i

646
00:23:51,590 --> 00:23:48,960
mean there's nowhere else but there's

647
00:23:54,310 --> 00:23:51,600
this yellow dirt

648
00:23:55,269 --> 00:23:54,320
and so he goes that's true

649
00:23:57,110 --> 00:23:55,279
well

650
00:23:59,350 --> 00:23:57,120
this is where it gets weird

651
00:24:01,590 --> 00:23:59,360
he digs his yellow dirt out

652
00:24:03,909 --> 00:24:01,600
puts it in his pack or something and

653
00:24:05,750 --> 00:24:03,919
tells wayne baisia you know and takes it

654
00:24:07,430 --> 00:24:05,760
home next day

655
00:24:08,870 --> 00:24:07,440
the yellow dirt had went right through

656
00:24:10,870 --> 00:24:08,880
his pack

657
00:24:12,870 --> 00:24:10,880
i don't know burned a hole through it i

658
00:24:14,789 --> 00:24:12,880
don't know but it went through his back

659
00:24:16,830 --> 00:24:14,799
so he claims his dirt up

660
00:24:20,149 --> 00:24:16,840
and he puts it in like a coffee

661
00:24:22,789 --> 00:24:20,159
can a couple days later a day later it

662
00:24:24,950 --> 00:24:22,799
had gone right to the coffee can

663
00:24:26,390 --> 00:24:24,960
so he puts it in a glass bottle

664
00:24:27,830 --> 00:24:26,400
and he takes it down to the university

665
00:24:29,430 --> 00:24:27,840
of utah

666
00:24:31,510 --> 00:24:29,440
and he says you know could you guys

667
00:24:33,110 --> 00:24:31,520
check this out and i don't know what it

668
00:24:34,870 --> 00:24:33,120
is yeah sure

669
00:24:37,110 --> 00:24:34,880
they did it and it went through their

670
00:24:39,590 --> 00:24:37,120
machine screwed up their machine

671
00:24:41,750 --> 00:24:39,600
and he comes back and they go

672
00:24:43,590 --> 00:24:41,760
what uh what is this

673
00:24:45,430 --> 00:24:43,600
you know what you did to us you know and

674
00:24:46,950 --> 00:24:45,440
the guy goes well where did you find he

675
00:24:48,230 --> 00:24:46,960
goes i don't know see you later bye

676
00:24:50,549 --> 00:24:48,240
mm-hmm

677
00:24:52,950 --> 00:24:50,559
and so i was hot to trot i wanted to

678
00:24:55,110 --> 00:24:52,960
find this stuff and i could i would

679
00:24:57,510 --> 00:24:55,120
gladly show somebody but i

680
00:24:59,029 --> 00:24:57,520
i didn't find it i couldn't fight it to

681
00:25:02,230 --> 00:24:59,039
save me

682
00:25:04,710 --> 00:25:02,240
no it's it's always bugged me

683
00:25:06,230 --> 00:25:04,720
it's always bugged me and wayne wasn't a

684
00:25:07,430 --> 00:25:06,240
bser

685
00:25:09,029 --> 00:25:07,440
uh

686
00:25:13,430 --> 00:25:09,039
he just wasn't

687
00:25:15,669 --> 00:25:13,440
but anyway

688
00:25:17,669 --> 00:25:15,679
uh that's what started the whole powwow

689
00:25:20,310 --> 00:25:17,679
thing is old brother wayne

690
00:25:22,230 --> 00:25:20,320
it's like that with these things it is

691
00:25:24,149 --> 00:25:22,240
um the more you get into them the less

692
00:25:26,310 --> 00:25:24,159
you talk is what i've noticed in my own

693
00:25:27,430 --> 00:25:26,320
personal experience the more real it

694
00:25:30,149 --> 00:25:27,440
becomes

695
00:25:31,990 --> 00:25:30,159
the more real you know as you certify it

696
00:25:33,830 --> 00:25:32,000
in your own mind you start to realize

697
00:25:35,830 --> 00:25:33,840
like oh wow we're really playing with

698
00:25:38,390 --> 00:25:35,840
fire no pun intended

699
00:25:40,310 --> 00:25:38,400
and as an example of that i'm glad that

700
00:25:43,669 --> 00:25:40,320
you mentioned not to go on tribal lands

701
00:25:46,149 --> 00:25:43,679
just uh last sunday just a week ago

702
00:25:48,710 --> 00:25:46,159
uh a couple was shot

703
00:25:51,110 --> 00:25:48,720
riding utvs yeah i'm sure you heard

704
00:25:53,510 --> 00:25:51,120
about it up there in duchesne county

705
00:25:55,510 --> 00:25:53,520
and yes i did i mean according to the

706
00:25:57,350 --> 00:25:55,520
news release there was absolutely no

707
00:25:59,510 --> 00:25:57,360
reason they might have just been in the

708
00:26:00,870 --> 00:25:59,520
wrong place at the wrong time and and

709
00:26:03,430 --> 00:26:00,880
they don't want you there and i don't

710
00:26:05,510 --> 00:26:03,440
blame them they've earned that right but

711
00:26:07,990 --> 00:26:05,520
there's many stories

712
00:26:09,110 --> 00:26:08,000
like this where

713
00:26:11,190 --> 00:26:09,120
well

714
00:26:14,870 --> 00:26:11,200
you know a lot of these

715
00:26:17,269 --> 00:26:14,880
mines and caves and possible uh

716
00:26:19,669 --> 00:26:17,279
sanctuaries that may hold the treasure

717
00:26:21,510 --> 00:26:19,679
of various kinds are up in the mountains

718
00:26:22,789 --> 00:26:21,520
of utah and

719
00:26:25,350 --> 00:26:22,799
you know the

720
00:26:26,390 --> 00:26:25,360
speaking with uh carrie ross borin and

721
00:26:28,310 --> 00:26:26,400
others

722
00:26:29,909 --> 00:26:28,320
i've found you know caleb as we

723
00:26:32,390 --> 00:26:29,919
mentioned the rhodes family i mean

724
00:26:34,789 --> 00:26:32,400
there's there's a long and vast history

725
00:26:36,390 --> 00:26:34,799
of the the lost rhodes mines and i say

726
00:26:38,710 --> 00:26:36,400
that with an s at the end of the mines

727
00:26:39,830 --> 00:26:38,720
because it isn't just one is it

728
00:26:45,510 --> 00:26:39,840
no

729
00:26:48,950 --> 00:26:45,520
but i'll tell you that that plays hides

730
00:26:51,909 --> 00:26:48,960
a secret pretty well mm-hmm and speaking

731
00:26:54,070 --> 00:26:51,919
speaking of secrets um something that i

732
00:26:55,269 --> 00:26:54,080
don't want to be a secret is this

733
00:26:57,669 --> 00:26:55,279
amazing

734
00:27:01,269 --> 00:26:57,679
gathering this this group

735
00:27:03,909 --> 00:27:01,279
uh the moon lake gathering and it is

736
00:27:06,310 --> 00:27:03,919
it's something that talk about giving

737
00:27:08,230 --> 00:27:06,320
back to the community that is interested

738
00:27:10,310 --> 00:27:08,240
in these mysteries

739
00:27:12,710 --> 00:27:10,320
you don't charge a thing for it it's

740
00:27:14,549 --> 00:27:12,720
free of charge let's tell listeners

741
00:27:16,630 --> 00:27:14,559
about the moon link gathering where it's

742
00:27:19,669 --> 00:27:16,640
held this year it's coming up real quick

743
00:27:22,470 --> 00:27:19,679
and uh how to get involved

744
00:27:23,750 --> 00:27:22,480
okay let me let's let's just go back one

745
00:27:28,230 --> 00:27:23,760
year

746
00:27:29,350 --> 00:27:28,240
we we'd had the powwow when you came up

747
00:27:31,510 --> 00:27:29,360
and talked

748
00:27:32,630 --> 00:27:31,520
we had it up above my house i live up in

749
00:27:34,549 --> 00:27:32,640
the mountains

750
00:27:36,789 --> 00:27:34,559
in a valley and uh

751
00:27:37,990 --> 00:27:36,799
i know the guys that owned this whole

752
00:27:40,310 --> 00:27:38,000
mountain range

753
00:27:42,710 --> 00:27:40,320
morgan county is like 99

754
00:27:44,710 --> 00:27:42,720
private land

755
00:27:47,350 --> 00:27:44,720
guys and they go oh yeah sure

756
00:27:50,230 --> 00:27:47,360
anyway we we headed up there we got too

757
00:27:52,070 --> 00:27:50,240
big we couldn't park everybody and then

758
00:27:53,750 --> 00:27:52,080
there was kind of a tiff in the family

759
00:27:54,549 --> 00:27:53,760
and i know both sides and i didn't want

760
00:27:56,789 --> 00:27:54,559
to

761
00:27:58,789 --> 00:27:56,799
so i i really i

762
00:28:01,029 --> 00:27:58,799
i have a barn

763
00:28:03,510 --> 00:28:01,039
and i thought you know what i'm just

764
00:28:05,269 --> 00:28:03,520
gonna get the real hardcore boys the

765
00:28:07,190 --> 00:28:05,279
real purists

766
00:28:10,310 --> 00:28:07,200
and we'll just have it here and i said

767
00:28:13,269 --> 00:28:10,320
i'm just gonna downsize this a lot

768
00:28:15,909 --> 00:28:13,279
and uh we did one and it was okay

769
00:28:18,149 --> 00:28:15,919
it wasn't great it was our it was fun

770
00:28:19,430 --> 00:28:18,159
and uh we used to have a big barbecue at

771
00:28:21,990 --> 00:28:19,440
it too

772
00:28:23,110 --> 00:28:22,000
and so uh

773
00:28:25,269 --> 00:28:23,120
anyway

774
00:28:26,950 --> 00:28:25,279
the moonlight thing came up

775
00:28:29,830 --> 00:28:26,960
and i thought ooh

776
00:28:31,830 --> 00:28:29,840
you know and we we got to be great

777
00:28:33,190 --> 00:28:31,840
friends with the guy that owns the lodge

778
00:28:35,750 --> 00:28:33,200
at moon lake

779
00:28:37,909 --> 00:28:35,760
and he also owns the store and the

780
00:28:40,070 --> 00:28:37,919
little bed and breakfast in mountain

781
00:28:42,870 --> 00:28:40,080
home which is just a little dinky dinky

782
00:28:45,190 --> 00:28:42,880
town before you get to lake so we went

783
00:28:46,149 --> 00:28:45,200
talk to him he goes oh let's do it let's

784
00:28:48,630 --> 00:28:46,159
do it

785
00:28:51,029 --> 00:28:48,640
well you oh i got the big area we can

786
00:28:52,549 --> 00:28:51,039
park you know you can set up chairs and

787
00:28:55,029 --> 00:28:52,559
everything and

788
00:28:56,389 --> 00:28:55,039
and and uh i said

789
00:28:58,389 --> 00:28:56,399
let's do it

790
00:29:00,789 --> 00:28:58,399
well you're going to have a million cars

791
00:29:02,630 --> 00:29:00,799
there nobody's going to walk yet

792
00:29:04,630 --> 00:29:02,640
and they say oh no we they they've been

793
00:29:05,909 --> 00:29:04,640
parking down on the shore of moon lake

794
00:29:08,230 --> 00:29:05,919
forever

795
00:29:09,590 --> 00:29:08,240
and i it's just in my mind i thought i

796
00:29:12,230 --> 00:29:09,600
don't know this is

797
00:29:14,070 --> 00:29:12,240
national park type of thing and state

798
00:29:15,190 --> 00:29:14,080
park or whatever

799
00:29:15,990 --> 00:29:15,200
well

800
00:29:21,269 --> 00:29:16,000
we

801
00:29:23,990 --> 00:29:21,279
everything

802
00:29:26,230 --> 00:29:24,000
and so this was our first really remote

803
00:29:27,350 --> 00:29:26,240
pow-wow

804
00:29:29,830 --> 00:29:27,360
about

805
00:29:31,430 --> 00:29:29,840
oh five weeks before

806
00:29:32,950 --> 00:29:31,440
he calls me he goes

807
00:29:33,909 --> 00:29:32,960
i don't know if we can do this i said

808
00:29:35,830 --> 00:29:33,919
what

809
00:29:37,350 --> 00:29:35,840
because we had terry carter doing videos

810
00:29:38,549 --> 00:29:37,360
we had people coming in from all over

811
00:29:40,310 --> 00:29:38,559
the country

812
00:29:41,269 --> 00:29:40,320
and you don't know this coming i had no

813
00:29:42,710 --> 00:29:41,279
idea

814
00:29:44,789 --> 00:29:42,720
i knew some

815
00:29:47,430 --> 00:29:44,799
and he goes well he said well i said

816
00:29:49,990 --> 00:29:47,440
what happened well he had a wedding at

817
00:29:53,430 --> 00:29:50,000
the moon lake

818
00:29:55,830 --> 00:29:53,440
at the lodge there and i said okay

819
00:29:57,110 --> 00:29:55,840
and then the uh forest service boys came

820
00:29:59,029 --> 00:29:57,120
down on him

821
00:30:00,070 --> 00:29:59,039
and i said well greg how many people did

822
00:30:01,269 --> 00:30:00,080
you have there

823
00:30:03,110 --> 00:30:01,279
20.

824
00:30:06,230 --> 00:30:03,120
i said they got pissed at you for 20

825
00:30:08,870 --> 00:30:06,240
people i said we might have 500.

826
00:30:11,029 --> 00:30:08,880
and it and it just fell apart in one

827
00:30:12,950 --> 00:30:11,039
second and one second in a phone call

828
00:30:14,389 --> 00:30:12,960
and we were just

829
00:30:15,830 --> 00:30:14,399
what are we going to do we don't even

830
00:30:18,310 --> 00:30:15,840
know who's coming

831
00:30:21,029 --> 00:30:18,320
so one of the ladies that we're going to

832
00:30:22,549 --> 00:30:21,039
was speaking at the powwow

833
00:30:25,029 --> 00:30:22,559
i called her and said we're we're in

834
00:30:28,070 --> 00:30:25,039
deep trouble what was the matter

835
00:30:31,269 --> 00:30:28,080
and she said hey hey just relax

836
00:30:33,110 --> 00:30:31,279
uh give me a day and i said okay but you

837
00:30:34,630 --> 00:30:33,120
you're not getting one minute more

838
00:30:36,149 --> 00:30:34,640
because we've got to do something here

839
00:30:37,990 --> 00:30:36,159
we're going to make some videos saying

840
00:30:39,750 --> 00:30:38,000
it's been postponed

841
00:30:42,230 --> 00:30:39,760
and hopefully

842
00:30:44,149 --> 00:30:42,240
and so she calls me back says uh i got

843
00:30:46,310 --> 00:30:44,159
us altamont park

844
00:30:49,029 --> 00:30:46,320
which is a little dinky town just

845
00:30:51,990 --> 00:30:49,039
outside of the the road up to

846
00:30:53,590 --> 00:30:52,000
moon lake and it's got a big pavilion

847
00:30:56,470 --> 00:30:53,600
and it was

848
00:30:58,710 --> 00:30:56,480
perfect we ran up there saw it we bought

849
00:31:00,470 --> 00:30:58,720
the part you know rented the park

850
00:31:03,750 --> 00:31:00,480
and

851
00:31:05,830 --> 00:31:03,760
it was absolutely letter perfect

852
00:31:06,950 --> 00:31:05,840
at least you're sitting in grass bring

853
00:31:08,870 --> 00:31:06,960
your chair

854
00:31:10,630 --> 00:31:08,880
and we had the pavilion

855
00:31:13,669 --> 00:31:10,640
and otherwise we're going to be sitting

856
00:31:16,149 --> 00:31:13,679
on a sagebrush mountain i mean you know

857
00:31:18,389 --> 00:31:16,159
it was kind of sort of cleared out

858
00:31:19,669 --> 00:31:18,399
so we went there and it was just almost

859
00:31:21,509 --> 00:31:19,679
memorable

860
00:31:23,350 --> 00:31:21,519
we had people from

861
00:31:25,350 --> 00:31:23,360
i don't know seven or eight states which

862
00:31:28,070 --> 00:31:25,360
just blew me away

863
00:31:30,830 --> 00:31:28,080
so this year uh it's at the altamonte

864
00:31:33,830 --> 00:31:30,840
park we still call it the moonlight

865
00:31:35,590 --> 00:31:33,840
gathering and uh we didn't know if we

866
00:31:37,909 --> 00:31:35,600
should call it the pow wow because

867
00:31:39,750 --> 00:31:37,919
there's a lot of tribal everything up

868
00:31:41,430 --> 00:31:39,760
there we didn't wanna

869
00:31:43,190 --> 00:31:41,440
you know we don't we're not out to make

870
00:31:45,269 --> 00:31:43,200
anybody mad and it was just a name

871
00:31:47,750 --> 00:31:45,279
that's stuck like i said

872
00:31:51,029 --> 00:31:47,760
so it's at altamonte park

873
00:31:52,870 --> 00:31:51,039
which is uh which will be on the 12th

874
00:31:55,430 --> 00:31:52,880
and 13th

875
00:31:57,590 --> 00:31:55,440
and so friday would be the 12th

876
00:31:59,430 --> 00:31:57,600
and i think you're speaking friday night

877
00:32:01,350 --> 00:31:59,440
right or is it saturday

878
00:32:03,509 --> 00:32:01,360
i can't remember which i want to say

879
00:32:05,350 --> 00:32:03,519
it's friday it is friday that's right i

880
00:32:07,750 --> 00:32:05,360
think it is friday uh

881
00:32:08,870 --> 00:32:07,760
and we've got four speakers on each

882
00:32:12,070 --> 00:32:08,880
night

883
00:32:13,590 --> 00:32:12,080
but there's one thing that we we we had

884
00:32:16,310 --> 00:32:13,600
up here in morgan

885
00:32:17,990 --> 00:32:16,320
we had an open mic that just

886
00:32:20,549 --> 00:32:18,000
was amazing

887
00:32:21,909 --> 00:32:20,559
and so we wanted to continue that

888
00:32:24,630 --> 00:32:21,919
and the reason

889
00:32:26,389 --> 00:32:24,640
well i guess there's a lot of reasons

890
00:32:28,070 --> 00:32:26,399
but one of the main reasons is we're in

891
00:32:33,590 --> 00:32:28,080
the basin

892
00:32:38,310 --> 00:32:35,190
that's just the way it is

893
00:32:39,110 --> 00:32:38,320
everybody and it goes from bigfoot

894
00:32:42,870 --> 00:32:39,120
to

895
00:32:45,110 --> 00:32:42,880
those

896
00:32:47,430 --> 00:32:45,120
basin boys and the basin is vernal and

897
00:32:49,669 --> 00:32:47,440
duchenne and that whole area

898
00:32:51,509 --> 00:32:49,679
uh we thought this this open mic is

899
00:32:53,509 --> 00:32:51,519
going to be unreal

900
00:32:55,190 --> 00:32:53,519
well it didn't really work very good

901
00:32:56,789 --> 00:32:55,200
last year because we tried to sneak it

902
00:32:59,190 --> 00:32:56,799
in between speakers

903
00:33:01,350 --> 00:32:59,200
just didn't work we had a handful

904
00:33:03,350 --> 00:33:01,360
but so saturday day

905
00:33:04,710 --> 00:33:03,360
at say 10 a.m

906
00:33:06,789 --> 00:33:04,720
until

907
00:33:07,909 --> 00:33:06,799
3 ish

908
00:33:09,590 --> 00:33:07,919
whatever

909
00:33:12,149 --> 00:33:09,600
we're going to have

910
00:33:14,070 --> 00:33:12,159
they've got a covered area there that

911
00:33:15,350 --> 00:33:14,080
they have picnic you know

912
00:33:17,509 --> 00:33:15,360
probably have the whole town in there

913
00:33:19,830 --> 00:33:17,519
and have picnics and stuff

914
00:33:22,149 --> 00:33:19,840
picnic tables and everything

915
00:33:23,350 --> 00:33:22,159
and we're going to have an open mic

916
00:33:25,669 --> 00:33:23,360
there

917
00:33:27,830 --> 00:33:25,679
to bring your artifacts and stuff like

918
00:33:29,350 --> 00:33:27,840
that last year there was a lot of guys

919
00:33:31,430 --> 00:33:29,360
showing artifacts

920
00:33:34,950 --> 00:33:31,440
in the parking lot

921
00:33:37,029 --> 00:33:34,960
and uh it was i went there i went

922
00:33:40,070 --> 00:33:37,039
last year on saturday i went there about

923
00:33:43,269 --> 00:33:40,080
three to help put up the mics and

924
00:33:45,430 --> 00:33:43,279
and and i i got sidetracked i

925
00:33:46,230 --> 00:33:45,440
there was some neat stuff going around

926
00:33:49,990 --> 00:33:46,240
there

927
00:33:52,070 --> 00:33:50,000
so we've set apart saturday day

928
00:33:55,590 --> 00:33:52,080
for that and then we'll roll into the

929
00:33:57,669 --> 00:33:55,600
speakers at five o'clock saturday night

930
00:34:00,470 --> 00:33:57,679
so friday night it's five

931
00:34:03,509 --> 00:34:00,480
saturday night at five and saturday

932
00:34:06,470 --> 00:34:03,519
basically all during the day

933
00:34:08,470 --> 00:34:06,480
man it is going to be great mark and

934
00:34:12,230 --> 00:34:08,480
you're right about people

935
00:34:14,550 --> 00:34:12,240
locals having information and you know

936
00:34:17,190 --> 00:34:14,560
everybody's got a story i remember when

937
00:34:20,310 --> 00:34:17,200
i first moved up to the basin

938
00:34:22,389 --> 00:34:20,320
uh my neighbor across the street her

939
00:34:23,829 --> 00:34:22,399
name um she's since passed her name was

940
00:34:26,629 --> 00:34:23,839
kitty manning

941
00:34:28,950 --> 00:34:26,639
and um she uh

942
00:34:31,909 --> 00:34:28,960
grew up and her family owned the rock

943
00:34:33,190 --> 00:34:31,919
creek ranch up there

944
00:34:36,389 --> 00:34:33,200
yeah you know

945
00:34:38,069 --> 00:34:36,399
and she was telling me stories as a girl

946
00:34:39,109 --> 00:34:38,079
when she was growing up

947
00:34:40,710 --> 00:34:39,119
and

948
00:34:42,790 --> 00:34:40,720
she mentioned that you know they had

949
00:34:45,430 --> 00:34:42,800
these caves on the property and near the

950
00:34:47,190 --> 00:34:45,440
property and how they would hear sounds

951
00:34:49,510 --> 00:34:47,200
inside the caves that sounded like

952
00:34:51,589 --> 00:34:49,520
voices they would see lights going in

953
00:34:53,829 --> 00:34:51,599
and out of the cave at night

954
00:34:57,430 --> 00:34:53,839
and i mean this is treasure land there

955
00:35:00,550 --> 00:34:57,440
is oh oh i'll say such a rich history

956
00:35:03,190 --> 00:35:00,560
bible lab too that's right that's right

957
00:35:05,430 --> 00:35:03,200
and you you'd stay away from that stuff

958
00:35:07,829 --> 00:35:05,440
yeah and historically the uinta basin in

959
00:35:10,150 --> 00:35:07,839
duchesne county have long been home to

960
00:35:12,069 --> 00:35:10,160
the native americans and there's

961
00:35:14,390 --> 00:35:12,079
evidence of

962
00:35:16,310 --> 00:35:14,400
treasure and inhabitants uh that there's

963
00:35:19,030 --> 00:35:16,320
all kinds of as you've mentioned there's

964
00:35:20,310 --> 00:35:19,040
coke ovens and places where you can melt

965
00:35:22,550 --> 00:35:20,320
down the ore

966
00:35:24,710 --> 00:35:22,560
and heck even on uh some of my

967
00:35:26,630 --> 00:35:24,720
properties there in the duchesne basin

968
00:35:29,109 --> 00:35:26,640
in the duchesne area and in the uinta

969
00:35:32,230 --> 00:35:29,119
basin there near fort duchesne

970
00:35:35,670 --> 00:35:32,240
i have found uh coins that are

971
00:35:37,910 --> 00:35:35,680
back from the 1800s i've found artifacts

972
00:35:39,430 --> 00:35:37,920
that seem to be spanish in nature and

973
00:35:41,510 --> 00:35:39,440
i'll bring some of those

974
00:35:44,390 --> 00:35:41,520
and um i think most recently i was

975
00:35:47,349 --> 00:35:44,400
telling you about a chinese coin

976
00:35:49,910 --> 00:35:47,359
that probably uh you know came from uh

977
00:35:51,829 --> 00:35:49,920
one of the first uh store owners there

978
00:35:52,790 --> 00:35:51,839
in fort duchesne he was he was from

979
00:35:56,550 --> 00:35:52,800
china

980
00:35:59,670 --> 00:35:56,560
and this i mean this area is

981
00:36:02,710 --> 00:35:59,680
certifiably one of the most rich areas

982
00:36:05,829 --> 00:36:02,720
of history that you can come across

983
00:36:07,349 --> 00:36:05,839
it's amazing and it's beautiful

984
00:36:09,030 --> 00:36:07,359
yeah

985
00:36:10,630 --> 00:36:09,040
let me i can't i'll give you a good one

986
00:36:12,710 --> 00:36:10,640
ryan so

987
00:36:14,630 --> 00:36:12,720
the lady that bailed us out last year

988
00:36:16,310 --> 00:36:14,640
got us the part which is she's lived

989
00:36:19,910 --> 00:36:16,320
there her whole life

990
00:36:21,829 --> 00:36:19,920
and uh patsy uh she was telling me

991
00:36:23,670 --> 00:36:21,839
so she goes to school all through

992
00:36:25,190 --> 00:36:23,680
duchenne you know the duchesne high

993
00:36:27,030 --> 00:36:25,200
school the whole thing

994
00:36:28,150 --> 00:36:27,040
and she when she was a young girl

995
00:36:29,510 --> 00:36:28,160
probably

996
00:36:32,230 --> 00:36:29,520
12-ish

997
00:36:33,670 --> 00:36:32,240
she had a really good friend and her dad

998
00:36:35,589 --> 00:36:33,680
owned the store

999
00:36:37,510 --> 00:36:35,599
there in duchesne

1000
00:36:38,310 --> 00:36:37,520
and so she would come to work for her

1001
00:36:41,109 --> 00:36:38,320
dad

1002
00:36:43,910 --> 00:36:41,119
and so that you know this was probably

1003
00:36:45,990 --> 00:36:43,920
the 60s i'm sure because patsy's just a

1004
00:36:47,030 --> 00:36:46,000
few years younger than me

1005
00:36:48,630 --> 00:36:47,040
so

1006
00:36:50,310 --> 00:36:48,640
60s ish

1007
00:36:53,349 --> 00:36:50,320
and she said she would work the cash

1008
00:36:54,870 --> 00:36:53,359
register and stuff for her dad

1009
00:36:57,109 --> 00:36:54,880
and uh

1010
00:36:58,230 --> 00:36:57,119
let's see how did this work oh yeah so

1011
00:37:00,069 --> 00:36:58,240
uh

1012
00:37:01,510 --> 00:37:00,079
there was an old old indian that would

1013
00:37:03,670 --> 00:37:01,520
come in to buy

1014
00:37:05,670 --> 00:37:03,680
you know his what he needed for the

1015
00:37:07,910 --> 00:37:05,680
month or what whatever

1016
00:37:10,550 --> 00:37:07,920
and she would help him and she this guy

1017
00:37:12,230 --> 00:37:10,560
would give her a gold nugget

1018
00:37:15,030 --> 00:37:12,240
a little gold nugget

1019
00:37:16,790 --> 00:37:15,040
and and and her dad said yeah you just

1020
00:37:17,910 --> 00:37:16,800
when he comes through he just you know

1021
00:37:20,870 --> 00:37:17,920
yes

1022
00:37:22,870 --> 00:37:20,880
so they uh he came back and

1023
00:37:24,470 --> 00:37:22,880
he'd buy all the stuff slide her over a

1024
00:37:26,630 --> 00:37:24,480
little gold nugget

1025
00:37:28,950 --> 00:37:26,640
so one time this last time and she sent

1026
00:37:30,630 --> 00:37:28,960
me a picture pepsi sent me a picture of

1027
00:37:32,230 --> 00:37:30,640
this coin it wasn't her it was her

1028
00:37:35,109 --> 00:37:32,240
girlfriend but you know

1029
00:37:36,630 --> 00:37:35,119
so uh this old indian came in bought his

1030
00:37:38,710 --> 00:37:36,640
stuff

1031
00:37:39,910 --> 00:37:38,720
and and this time he didn't give her a

1032
00:37:42,550 --> 00:37:39,920
nugget

1033
00:37:45,430 --> 00:37:42,560
he gave her a spanish coin that was like

1034
00:37:47,670 --> 00:37:45,440
pristine wow i mean my i'd have to go

1035
00:37:49,589 --> 00:37:47,680
dig i'll ryan remind me and i'll show

1036
00:37:51,349 --> 00:37:49,599
you the picture i've got to dig it out

1037
00:37:53,270 --> 00:37:51,359
it's in my phone and

1038
00:37:55,990 --> 00:37:53,280
at night it's hard to find stuff in

1039
00:37:58,550 --> 00:37:56,000
there but he slides this spanish coin

1040
00:38:01,109 --> 00:37:58,560
over to this young girl

1041
00:38:03,030 --> 00:38:01,119
and she you know he walks out with his

1042
00:38:05,829 --> 00:38:03,040
beans and rice or whatever

1043
00:38:07,910 --> 00:38:05,839
and she the little girl grabs the coin

1044
00:38:10,230 --> 00:38:07,920
and runs it over to her dad

1045
00:38:12,390 --> 00:38:10,240
dad this is what this uh the old indian

1046
00:38:15,270 --> 00:38:12,400
gaming this time in his her dad which

1047
00:38:16,870 --> 00:38:15,280
was a very nice thing for her dad to do

1048
00:38:18,790 --> 00:38:16,880
he said now listen

1049
00:38:20,710 --> 00:38:18,800
sally whatever her name was

1050
00:38:21,750 --> 00:38:20,720
i want you to keep this forever and

1051
00:38:25,030 --> 00:38:21,760
remember

1052
00:38:27,990 --> 00:38:25,040
the story and how you got it and she has

1053
00:38:30,710 --> 00:38:28,000
she's kept that coin for i don't know 50

1054
00:38:33,589 --> 00:38:30,720
years something like that

1055
00:38:36,150 --> 00:38:33,599
so this this that that that duchenne

1056
00:38:39,430 --> 00:38:36,160
basin fascinates me just absolutely

1057
00:38:41,430 --> 00:38:39,440
knocks me off knocks me off my feet

1058
00:38:43,589 --> 00:38:41,440
and then and you know and i will tell

1059
00:38:45,829 --> 00:38:43,599
you you're welcome to come to this

1060
00:38:47,190 --> 00:38:45,839
i mean you're coming ready to speak but

1061
00:38:49,510 --> 00:38:47,200
uh

1062
00:38:51,910 --> 00:38:49,520
i would tell you honestly

1063
00:38:53,270 --> 00:38:51,920
don't sit on your chair and listen and

1064
00:38:55,829 --> 00:38:53,280
wait for the next guy

1065
00:38:57,589 --> 00:38:55,839
go out and mingle with the people and

1066
00:38:58,870 --> 00:38:57,599
you'll meet

1067
00:39:01,349 --> 00:38:58,880
here here so

1068
00:39:03,430 --> 00:39:01,359
well ryan i don't want to be doing all

1069
00:39:05,910 --> 00:39:03,440
the talking here

1070
00:39:08,069 --> 00:39:05,920
you want another one yeah i love this i

1071
00:39:09,349 --> 00:39:08,079
can't get enough of it

1072
00:39:12,390 --> 00:39:09,359
so where

1073
00:39:14,790 --> 00:39:12,400
uh paxy got us the fairgrounds

1074
00:39:16,550 --> 00:39:14,800
in altamonte and we can park our

1075
00:39:19,190 --> 00:39:16,560
trailers there or whatever

1076
00:39:21,990 --> 00:39:19,200
and i'm telling you it's not nice it is

1077
00:39:23,750 --> 00:39:22,000
not nice but it's flat

1078
00:39:24,550 --> 00:39:23,760
and we will have a couple porta potties

1079
00:39:29,270 --> 00:39:24,560
there

1080
00:39:31,349 --> 00:39:29,280
a couple of guys just over from us just

1081
00:39:34,310 --> 00:39:31,359
minding their business doing their thing

1082
00:39:36,230 --> 00:39:34,320
so i walked over and hey how's it going

1083
00:39:38,870 --> 00:39:36,240
how are you doing oh yeah we're here for

1084
00:39:41,109 --> 00:39:38,880
the pedal okay good to see you

1085
00:39:43,109 --> 00:39:41,119
and i get talking to him

1086
00:39:44,470 --> 00:39:43,119
and they had gone to the pow wow friday

1087
00:39:47,109 --> 00:39:44,480
night

1088
00:39:49,190 --> 00:39:47,119
and they had been mingling and somebody

1089
00:39:49,990 --> 00:39:49,200
told them about

1090
00:40:00,150 --> 00:39:50,000
a

1091
00:40:03,670 --> 00:40:00,160
the bigfoot boys would know

1092
00:40:05,510 --> 00:40:03,680
where they they have an inhabitant place

1093
00:40:07,990 --> 00:40:05,520
where they would stay the bigfoot i

1094
00:40:10,069 --> 00:40:08,000
think they're pretty migratory but they

1095
00:40:13,589 --> 00:40:10,079
bend over trees and make a sort of a

1096
00:40:15,670 --> 00:40:13,599
shelter yeah of sorts yeah like a layer

1097
00:40:17,910 --> 00:40:15,680
well whatever it's called but it was a

1098
00:40:20,390 --> 00:40:17,920
bigfoot thing up in the uintas and some

1099
00:40:22,630 --> 00:40:20,400
guy had told these two guys

1100
00:40:23,430 --> 00:40:22,640
and uh instead of going back saturday

1101
00:40:25,349 --> 00:40:23,440
night

1102
00:40:27,270 --> 00:40:25,359
they took off and went over to the dang

1103
00:40:29,349 --> 00:40:27,280
bigfoot thing i hopefully they'll be

1104
00:40:31,190 --> 00:40:29,359
here this year and i wanted to see if

1105
00:40:33,750 --> 00:40:31,200
they ever found it because

1106
00:40:36,309 --> 00:40:33,760
i thought that was pretty fascinating

1107
00:40:37,750 --> 00:40:36,319
pretty dang interesting and they so they

1108
00:40:40,309 --> 00:40:37,760
didn't make it back

1109
00:40:42,230 --> 00:40:40,319
funny cracks me up

1110
00:40:43,910 --> 00:40:42,240
i probably would have done the same yeah

1111
00:40:45,670 --> 00:40:43,920
you've brought in a big you're hitting

1112
00:40:48,309 --> 00:40:45,680
all the points mark you've brought in a

1113
00:40:49,670 --> 00:40:48,319
big area of high strangeness there in

1114
00:40:52,150 --> 00:40:49,680
the basin that

1115
00:40:54,550 --> 00:40:52,160
has been going on for a long time i

1116
00:40:57,030 --> 00:40:54,560
remember being a fly fishing guide up on

1117
00:40:58,470 --> 00:40:57,040
the green river for about a decade and

1118
00:41:00,550 --> 00:40:58,480
you'd hear these stories of these

1119
00:41:02,470 --> 00:41:00,560
mountain men and they had a lot of

1120
00:41:03,589 --> 00:41:02,480
sightings of these creatures in the

1121
00:41:06,790 --> 00:41:03,599
woods

1122
00:41:08,470 --> 00:41:06,800
and you know i i was a part of the first

1123
00:41:11,589 --> 00:41:08,480
i can't say the name because i had to

1124
00:41:14,390 --> 00:41:11,599
sign an nda but the first big

1125
00:41:16,390 --> 00:41:14,400
real large bigfoot hunting expedition in

1126
00:41:18,390 --> 00:41:16,400
the state of utah by

1127
00:41:19,430 --> 00:41:18,400
really yeah one of the most prominent

1128
00:41:21,190 --> 00:41:19,440
groups

1129
00:41:24,069 --> 00:41:21,200
and i'll tell you it was right there in

1130
00:41:26,069 --> 00:41:24,079
the uintah mountains and things were

1131
00:41:29,030 --> 00:41:26,079
found that's as far as i can go but

1132
00:41:31,670 --> 00:41:29,040
thing very obvious i mean i'm i'm

1133
00:41:34,309 --> 00:41:31,680
convinced i'm a total believer i

1134
00:41:36,390 --> 00:41:34,319
remember being on my horse

1135
00:41:40,630 --> 00:41:36,400
right there in duchesne county

1136
00:41:42,950 --> 00:41:40,640
and i was up on a bluff and i saw what i

1137
00:41:45,109 --> 00:41:42,960
i really honestly believed it was just a

1138
00:41:46,870 --> 00:41:45,119
guy in a big fur coat maybe a crazy

1139
00:41:48,630 --> 00:41:46,880
person or something and

1140
00:41:50,950 --> 00:41:48,640
so i wanted to cruise over and see what

1141
00:41:52,950 --> 00:41:50,960
was going on and we could not this was

1142
00:41:55,190 --> 00:41:52,960
my fastest horse we couldn't catch up

1143
00:41:57,270 --> 00:41:55,200
with the thing it dusted us

1144
00:41:58,750 --> 00:41:57,280
so there's something to all this i mean

1145
00:42:01,109 --> 00:41:58,760
kind of switching gears into the

1146
00:42:03,750 --> 00:42:01,119
cryptozoology there in the you you win a

1147
00:42:05,990 --> 00:42:03,760
basin and utah in general there really

1148
00:42:08,470 --> 00:42:06,000
is a lot of stories and there really is

1149
00:42:10,069 --> 00:42:08,480
something to all of it

1150
00:42:13,430 --> 00:42:10,079
i think so

1151
00:42:15,589 --> 00:42:13,440
uh we spend a lot of time

1152
00:42:17,910 --> 00:42:15,599
we've got to the point where

1153
00:42:20,710 --> 00:42:17,920
if we don't know you and know your story

1154
00:42:22,550 --> 00:42:20,720
we won't you know we we uh

1155
00:42:24,630 --> 00:42:22,560
you're not going to speak at the powwow

1156
00:42:26,630 --> 00:42:24,640
and if we find out you know hear your

1157
00:42:28,710 --> 00:42:26,640
story and you're legit

1158
00:42:32,309 --> 00:42:28,720
then we'll uh you know we'll then we'll

1159
00:42:33,670 --> 00:42:32,319
talk but we had a guy ryan and this

1160
00:42:35,829 --> 00:42:33,680
wasn't in

1161
00:42:38,390 --> 00:42:35,839
this was uh so there's the south slope

1162
00:42:40,710 --> 00:42:38,400
of the uns and the north slope

1163
00:42:42,630 --> 00:42:40,720
and uh all this that we're talking about

1164
00:42:45,270 --> 00:42:42,640
is on the south slope

1165
00:42:47,670 --> 00:42:45,280
and in my opinion the south slopes a lot

1166
00:42:49,349 --> 00:42:47,680
wilder than the north slope

1167
00:42:51,510 --> 00:42:49,359
not that there's not some wild stuff on

1168
00:42:53,349 --> 00:42:51,520
the north slope we went and interviewed

1169
00:42:56,150 --> 00:42:53,359
a guy

1170
00:42:58,470 --> 00:42:56,160
fascinating guy

1171
00:42:59,990 --> 00:42:58,480
they were on the north slope

1172
00:43:01,829 --> 00:43:00,000
so there was on the opposite side of

1173
00:43:02,950 --> 00:43:01,839
where we're all at

1174
00:43:04,309 --> 00:43:02,960
and he

1175
00:43:06,950 --> 00:43:04,319
and his neighbor

1176
00:43:09,349 --> 00:43:06,960
took their sons up to go fishing

1177
00:43:12,069 --> 00:43:09,359
and uh i'll even tell you the

1178
00:43:13,990 --> 00:43:12,079
drainage if you want me to and the lake

1179
00:43:16,870 --> 00:43:14,000
that they were cooperate

1180
00:43:19,109 --> 00:43:16,880
okay that's the name of the drainage and

1181
00:43:19,829 --> 00:43:19,119
kubernetes historically they said that

1182
00:43:27,270 --> 00:43:19,839
the

1183
00:43:29,910 --> 00:43:27,280
been

1184
00:43:31,990 --> 00:43:29,920
a lot of sightings in that area well

1185
00:43:33,190 --> 00:43:32,000
they hiked into the lake there cooperate

1186
00:43:35,430 --> 00:43:33,200
lake

1187
00:43:37,750 --> 00:43:35,440
this was this was years ago he's an

1188
00:43:39,190 --> 00:43:37,760
older man now

1189
00:43:41,430 --> 00:43:39,200
and

1190
00:43:43,589 --> 00:43:41,440
in fact if you want to go to our

1191
00:43:45,910 --> 00:43:43,599
facebook page we've got pictures of some

1192
00:43:47,829 --> 00:43:45,920
of the uh footprints that they pulled

1193
00:43:49,910 --> 00:43:47,839
off oh yeah let's let's tell our

1194
00:43:52,950 --> 00:43:49,920
listeners uh what what the name of the

1195
00:43:55,109 --> 00:43:52,960
facebook page is so they can find it

1196
00:43:56,230 --> 00:43:55,119
it's gathering at moon lake

1197
00:43:59,109 --> 00:43:56,240
and then

1198
00:44:00,790 --> 00:43:59,119
forward slash morgan powwow and they'll

1199
00:44:02,150 --> 00:44:00,800
take you right there go digging through

1200
00:44:04,230 --> 00:44:02,160
there we've we've been putting a lot of

1201
00:44:05,829 --> 00:44:04,240
stuff on there this year

1202
00:44:07,990 --> 00:44:05,839
so they're up there fishing and the

1203
00:44:09,750 --> 00:44:08,000
thing with the wind is if you're people

1204
00:44:10,710 --> 00:44:09,760
that from up here know what i'm talking

1205
00:44:12,550 --> 00:44:10,720
about

1206
00:44:14,710 --> 00:44:12,560
people from out of the you know not from

1207
00:44:17,349 --> 00:44:14,720
the area if you don't like this lake

1208
00:44:18,630 --> 00:44:17,359
there's another lake a half a mile away

1209
00:44:21,030 --> 00:44:18,640
and if you don't like that one there's

1210
00:44:22,470 --> 00:44:21,040
another lake a half a mile away

1211
00:44:24,710 --> 00:44:22,480
that's just the that's the view when

1212
00:44:27,829 --> 00:44:24,720
there's a ton of lakes up there

1213
00:44:30,550 --> 00:44:27,839
so they were fishing the lake there

1214
00:44:34,069 --> 00:44:30,560
and they go and so there was two adults

1215
00:44:36,470 --> 00:44:34,079
and then probably five or six young boys

1216
00:44:38,470 --> 00:44:36,480
that their their boys that were up there

1217
00:44:40,790 --> 00:44:38,480
so they said let's just hike over to

1218
00:44:43,109 --> 00:44:40,800
whatever the lake is next to them

1219
00:44:45,349 --> 00:44:43,119
so they hike out of there they get onto

1220
00:44:48,230 --> 00:44:45,359
a hype a high hill

1221
00:44:51,589 --> 00:44:48,240
this overlooking cooperate

1222
00:44:53,030 --> 00:44:51,599
and uh they looked down there and there

1223
00:44:56,069 --> 00:44:53,040
was a bigfoot

1224
00:44:57,589 --> 00:44:56,079
drinking out of the lake or or whatever

1225
00:44:58,309 --> 00:44:57,599
maybe he was fishing

1226
00:45:01,349 --> 00:44:58,319
but

1227
00:45:03,589 --> 00:45:01,359
they said they got a perfect

1228
00:45:05,030 --> 00:45:03,599
siding hymn and i mean there was no

1229
00:45:07,349 --> 00:45:05,040
question

1230
00:45:09,030 --> 00:45:07,359
and the dang boys they saw they'd sit

1231
00:45:11,750 --> 00:45:09,040
and watch and watch

1232
00:45:14,069 --> 00:45:11,760
and the dane kids which the kid would do

1233
00:45:16,230 --> 00:45:14,079
started screaming yelling the bigfoot

1234
00:45:19,109 --> 00:45:16,240
looks up at him

1235
00:45:21,750 --> 00:45:19,119
and he turns around and starts off into

1236
00:45:23,510 --> 00:45:21,760
it took a while to hit the tree line

1237
00:45:25,670 --> 00:45:23,520
and the two dads go let's go let's go

1238
00:45:27,750 --> 00:45:25,680
down there so they they told the boys

1239
00:45:30,230 --> 00:45:27,760
they said don't you move

1240
00:45:32,630 --> 00:45:30,240
don't you dare move you sit right here

1241
00:45:34,150 --> 00:45:32,640
and i don't you know and so the two men

1242
00:45:37,030 --> 00:45:34,160
went down there

1243
00:45:38,309 --> 00:45:37,040
to chase him like and they so they got

1244
00:45:39,750 --> 00:45:38,319
down and found the footprints and

1245
00:45:41,829 --> 00:45:39,760
everything

1246
00:45:43,109 --> 00:45:41,839
and and they they they followed him for

1247
00:45:44,630 --> 00:45:43,119
a while and they started to look they

1248
00:45:46,790 --> 00:45:44,640
looked at each other they said

1249
00:45:49,030 --> 00:45:46,800
do you really want to catch him

1250
00:45:51,430 --> 00:45:49,040
and the other one says no

1251
00:45:55,349 --> 00:45:51,440
so they got the heck out of there

1252
00:45:56,309 --> 00:45:55,359
and he's had he went he just got

1253
00:45:58,309 --> 00:45:56,319
hooked

1254
00:45:59,430 --> 00:45:58,319
on bigfoot after that

1255
00:46:02,470 --> 00:45:59,440
and

1256
00:46:04,150 --> 00:46:02,480
they went back up there in light snow so

1257
00:46:05,670 --> 00:46:04,160
they thought they could find footprints

1258
00:46:07,430 --> 00:46:05,680
easier that way

1259
00:46:09,589 --> 00:46:07,440
and he was with his boys well the boys

1260
00:46:11,670 --> 00:46:09,599
were a lot better shape than he was in

1261
00:46:14,470 --> 00:46:11,680
and in the same area this was i don't

1262
00:46:15,829 --> 00:46:14,480
know five months later or whatever

1263
00:46:17,990 --> 00:46:15,839
and uh

1264
00:46:19,109 --> 00:46:18,000
they get up the kids got to the top of

1265
00:46:21,030 --> 00:46:19,119
this

1266
00:46:23,349 --> 00:46:21,040
hill where they were gonna

1267
00:46:25,030 --> 00:46:23,359
take a rest and they saw that it had to

1268
00:46:26,390 --> 00:46:25,040
be the same one

1269
00:46:29,990 --> 00:46:26,400
and they saw him and they start

1270
00:46:31,670 --> 00:46:30,000
screaming well the bigfoot takes off and

1271
00:46:34,309 --> 00:46:31,680
the poor dad

1272
00:46:36,230 --> 00:46:34,319
he by the time he got there it was gone

1273
00:46:38,390 --> 00:46:36,240
it'd be like

1274
00:46:39,990 --> 00:46:38,400
pheasant hunting with a dog that's three

1275
00:46:42,230 --> 00:46:40,000
fields ahead of you

1276
00:46:44,150 --> 00:46:42,240
you're not gonna win there the damn dog

1277
00:46:45,030 --> 00:46:44,160
scares up everything long before you get

1278
00:46:45,829 --> 00:46:45,040
there

1279
00:46:47,829 --> 00:46:45,839
but

1280
00:46:48,710 --> 00:46:47,839
we've invited him and i don't he's kind

1281
00:46:50,950 --> 00:46:48,720
of

1282
00:46:52,069 --> 00:46:50,960
shy he just we haven't been able to get

1283
00:46:52,790 --> 00:46:52,079
him but

1284
00:46:56,630 --> 00:46:52,800
we

1285
00:46:58,069 --> 00:46:56,640
down

1286
00:47:01,589 --> 00:46:58,079
they are real

1287
00:47:02,390 --> 00:47:01,599
real assets in this community because it

1288
00:47:04,790 --> 00:47:02,400
is

1289
00:47:05,670 --> 00:47:04,800
you know there's so many folks that have

1290
00:47:07,510 --> 00:47:05,680
had

1291
00:47:10,069 --> 00:47:07,520
high strangeness occur in the uintah

1292
00:47:13,030 --> 00:47:10,079
basin you get you get ufo reports you

1293
00:47:16,069 --> 00:47:13,040
get portals that open up and close

1294
00:47:17,910 --> 00:47:16,079
the the the utah treasure aspect is

1295
00:47:19,750 --> 00:47:17,920
something that you can legitimately kind

1296
00:47:21,750 --> 00:47:19,760
of a nuts and bolts thing if you get out

1297
00:47:23,430 --> 00:47:21,760
there and dig around and

1298
00:47:24,950 --> 00:47:23,440
use a metal detector it's something that

1299
00:47:26,710 --> 00:47:24,960
you can actually nail down and say

1300
00:47:28,549 --> 00:47:26,720
here's the proof you know showing some

1301
00:47:30,950 --> 00:47:28,559
of the artifacts but some of these other

1302
00:47:32,470 --> 00:47:30,960
things are so wild that you really have

1303
00:47:34,069 --> 00:47:32,480
to get it from the horse's mouth and

1304
00:47:35,910 --> 00:47:34,079
hear it from the people who have

1305
00:47:39,829 --> 00:47:35,920
experienced it

1306
00:47:43,990 --> 00:47:39,839
right that's true we had

1307
00:47:45,510 --> 00:47:44,000
we had one that was just i heard it

1308
00:47:46,790 --> 00:47:45,520
the guy that told me

1309
00:47:52,069 --> 00:47:46,800
they have been

1310
00:47:54,870 --> 00:47:52,079
unbelievably lucky and successful about

1311
00:47:57,030 --> 00:47:54,880
finding stuff

1312
00:47:59,190 --> 00:47:57,040
but they went to uh

1313
00:48:00,950 --> 00:47:59,200
there's the story on our facebook page

1314
00:48:03,829 --> 00:48:00,960
and a picture of this

1315
00:48:04,950 --> 00:48:03,839
if you want to hear why crazy stuff

1316
00:48:06,470 --> 00:48:04,960
uh

1317
00:48:08,230 --> 00:48:06,480
go to our facebook page and read the

1318
00:48:10,069 --> 00:48:08,240
story you'll go down you'll see it looks

1319
00:48:12,309 --> 00:48:10,079
kind of like a volcano

1320
00:48:14,630 --> 00:48:12,319
and it's right there in the basin

1321
00:48:16,870 --> 00:48:14,640
and read the story it would take too

1322
00:48:18,790 --> 00:48:16,880
long to tell it to you on here

1323
00:48:21,589 --> 00:48:18,800
and that it's only you know it's not a

1324
00:48:24,150 --> 00:48:21,599
long story but

1325
00:48:25,750 --> 00:48:24,160
it just it's a fascinating thing i i

1326
00:48:27,190 --> 00:48:25,760
went to lunch with the guy that did it

1327
00:48:28,870 --> 00:48:27,200
twice

1328
00:48:30,150 --> 00:48:28,880
and i went years a few years ago and

1329
00:48:32,069 --> 00:48:30,160
then i went the other day was i wanted

1330
00:48:35,030 --> 00:48:32,079
the guy that writes for us

1331
00:48:36,870 --> 00:48:35,040
to uh to hear it

1332
00:48:38,630 --> 00:48:36,880
because he wanted to do an article and

1333
00:48:40,630 --> 00:48:38,640
we put it he did

1334
00:48:42,390 --> 00:48:40,640
put it on our facebook page

1335
00:48:43,910 --> 00:48:42,400
and i'll tell you what

1336
00:48:45,750 --> 00:48:43,920
if you haven't read anything for a while

1337
00:48:49,270 --> 00:48:45,760
look at this one because it and with

1338
00:48:51,270 --> 00:48:49,280
pictures it is amazing

1339
00:48:53,270 --> 00:48:51,280
and the story is actually longer than

1340
00:48:55,109 --> 00:48:53,280
the article but

1341
00:48:57,190 --> 00:48:55,119
pretty good good stuff

1342
00:48:58,950 --> 00:48:57,200
you know it's funny and

1343
00:49:00,549 --> 00:48:58,960
speaking about branching out when we

1344
00:49:02,470 --> 00:49:00,559
first started

1345
00:49:05,349 --> 00:49:02,480
it was spanish gold spanish gold spanish

1346
00:49:07,270 --> 00:49:05,359
gold uh gorgeous blood smash gold and to

1347
00:49:09,670 --> 00:49:07,280
be honest with you we just kind of got

1348
00:49:11,829 --> 00:49:09,680
uh burned out on it

1349
00:49:13,829 --> 00:49:11,839
and uh so we thought you know what would

1350
00:49:16,230 --> 00:49:13,839
be cool it wouldn't be neat to get a

1351
00:49:18,069 --> 00:49:16,240
bigfoot guy and that's about as far as

1352
00:49:20,549 --> 00:49:18,079
it went and i remember telling a guy

1353
00:49:23,589 --> 00:49:20,559
said where are you gonna find a bigfoot

1354
00:49:25,109 --> 00:49:23,599
guy i mean that's gotta be pretty rare

1355
00:49:27,030 --> 00:49:25,119
not so much

1356
00:49:28,390 --> 00:49:27,040
if you if you get out there and get

1357
00:49:30,870 --> 00:49:28,400
talking to people

1358
00:49:33,349 --> 00:49:30,880
there's a lot of people that have seen

1359
00:49:35,030 --> 00:49:33,359
had some pretty dang good uh

1360
00:49:39,990 --> 00:49:35,040
sightings

1361
00:49:42,230 --> 00:49:40,000
and it's not that hard to find them

1362
00:49:44,630 --> 00:49:42,240
we have found a bunch

1363
00:49:47,030 --> 00:49:44,640
i i've heard a bunch of stories and to

1364
00:49:50,230 --> 00:49:47,040
be honest with you almost all of them i

1365
00:49:52,069 --> 00:49:50,240
find very very legitimate

1366
00:49:54,630 --> 00:49:52,079
they're not the type of they don't go

1367
00:49:56,069 --> 00:49:54,640
looking for you you go looking for them

1368
00:49:58,150 --> 00:49:56,079
so why would they

1369
00:49:59,270 --> 00:49:58,160
spin you some yarn that's just a mile

1370
00:50:01,829 --> 00:49:59,280
long

1371
00:50:03,670 --> 00:50:01,839
it's uh it's they're there i mean i

1372
00:50:05,190 --> 00:50:03,680
haven't seen one

1373
00:50:06,790 --> 00:50:05,200
but uh

1374
00:50:09,190 --> 00:50:06,800
yeah they're there

1375
00:50:11,430 --> 00:50:09,200
oh yeah and it can be that thing that

1376
00:50:13,829 --> 00:50:11,440
kind of connecting that connecting

1377
00:50:15,349 --> 00:50:13,839
thread uh to this weirdness i remember

1378
00:50:17,990 --> 00:50:15,359
when i

1379
00:50:19,829 --> 00:50:18,000
i you know i i get kind of a hard time

1380
00:50:21,349 --> 00:50:19,839
from my wife's family sometime because i

1381
00:50:23,750 --> 00:50:21,359
know i'm into some things that are a

1382
00:50:27,030 --> 00:50:23,760
little bit fringy and i remember

1383
00:50:29,829 --> 00:50:27,040
speaking with my uh father-in-law who uh

1384
00:50:32,069 --> 00:50:29,839
passed but he was a he was a navy seal

1385
00:50:34,630 --> 00:50:32,079
seal team six you know went to vietnam

1386
00:50:36,470 --> 00:50:34,640
very very uh

1387
00:50:38,309 --> 00:50:36,480
real world guy

1388
00:50:41,190 --> 00:50:38,319
and you had to you show him something to

1389
00:50:43,430 --> 00:50:41,200
convince him and i remember one day

1390
00:50:45,750 --> 00:50:43,440
he and my mother-in-law

1391
00:50:47,510 --> 00:50:45,760
pulled me aside and they said ryan when

1392
00:50:49,829 --> 00:50:47,520
it comes to the bigfoot thing you got us

1393
00:50:50,790 --> 00:50:49,839
convinced we were in oregon where they

1394
00:50:52,470 --> 00:50:50,800
lived

1395
00:50:54,710 --> 00:50:52,480
and they said they were just driving

1396
00:50:56,069 --> 00:50:54,720
down the road and it crossed right in

1397
00:50:59,430 --> 00:50:56,079
front of them and they both looked at

1398
00:51:01,270 --> 00:50:59,440
each other and said okay then and this i

1399
00:51:02,870 --> 00:51:01,280
mean this stuff happens and it you don't

1400
00:51:04,390 --> 00:51:02,880
have to be a believer a lot of these

1401
00:51:05,829 --> 00:51:04,400
people with stories

1402
00:51:07,910 --> 00:51:05,839
they're not believers when they see

1403
00:51:10,069 --> 00:51:07,920
these things and you know they only

1404
00:51:12,069 --> 00:51:10,079
become believers after they've seen

1405
00:51:14,630 --> 00:51:12,079
these things

1406
00:51:16,790 --> 00:51:14,640
wow that's a good that's that's cool

1407
00:51:18,549 --> 00:51:16,800
and after that they were they were all

1408
00:51:21,349 --> 00:51:18,559
on board with you yeah yeah i didn't

1409
00:51:23,430 --> 00:51:21,359
seem as weird i guess to them but

1410
00:51:25,270 --> 00:51:23,440
it it's it's amazing i think it's such a

1411
00:51:27,349 --> 00:51:25,280
good group of people that you have and

1412
00:51:28,950 --> 00:51:27,359
and i'm so glad to be confirmed on the

1413
00:51:31,430 --> 00:51:28,960
speakers list because i can't wait to

1414
00:51:33,750 --> 00:51:31,440
share some stuff and i've seen it i mean

1415
00:51:36,549 --> 00:51:33,760
i've seen the utah treasures even if

1416
00:51:38,230 --> 00:51:36,559
those are just coins or spanish stirrups

1417
00:51:40,549 --> 00:51:38,240
that you dig up out of the ground i mean

1418
00:51:43,190 --> 00:51:40,559
this is stuff i've put my hands on and

1419
00:51:44,950 --> 00:51:43,200
seen and you know you can't you can't

1420
00:51:45,910 --> 00:51:44,960
say somebody just went out there with

1421
00:51:49,030 --> 00:51:45,920
these

1422
00:51:50,549 --> 00:51:49,040
stirrups and buried them for fun i mean

1423
00:51:51,349 --> 00:51:50,559
these are things that are hard to come

1424
00:51:52,150 --> 00:51:51,359
by

1425
00:51:54,710 --> 00:51:52,160
and

1426
00:51:56,950 --> 00:51:54,720
that's what's my amazing uh just uh

1427
00:51:58,390 --> 00:51:56,960
another guy i know that i i do he does a

1428
00:52:02,069 --> 00:51:58,400
lot of work for me

1429
00:52:04,630 --> 00:52:02,079
and his his ancestors um have found all

1430
00:52:07,430 --> 00:52:04,640
kinds of things spanish bridals i mean

1431
00:52:09,910 --> 00:52:07,440
you name it it's it's up there

1432
00:52:11,510 --> 00:52:09,920
it's up there so ryan tell me about your

1433
00:52:14,390 --> 00:52:11,520
stirrup because we

1434
00:52:17,109 --> 00:52:14,400
this this guy just speaking uh friday

1435
00:52:20,230 --> 00:52:17,119
night they found a couple stirrups

1436
00:52:22,309 --> 00:52:20,240
and they were amazing they were amazing

1437
00:52:23,589 --> 00:52:22,319
uh are you the ones that you've seen are

1438
00:52:25,270 --> 00:52:23,599
they uh

1439
00:52:27,589 --> 00:52:25,280
they almost look like a shoe that you'd

1440
00:52:29,430 --> 00:52:27,599
slide your foot in that's exactly right

1441
00:52:31,990 --> 00:52:29,440
they're beautiful they look like they're

1442
00:52:33,349 --> 00:52:32,000
uh hammered out of brass they're a lot

1443
00:52:35,510 --> 00:52:33,359
smaller than our feet because the

1444
00:52:36,950 --> 00:52:35,520
spanish had a lot smaller feet that kind

1445
00:52:38,150 --> 00:52:36,960
of blew me away

1446
00:52:41,190 --> 00:52:38,160
they have

1447
00:52:43,430 --> 00:52:41,200
little uh triangles like open triangles

1448
00:52:45,190 --> 00:52:43,440
at the bottom uh cut out of them so that

1449
00:52:47,030 --> 00:52:45,200
if it you know was raining or whatever

1450
00:52:49,270 --> 00:52:47,040
these things would drain out i mean they

1451
00:52:50,790 --> 00:52:49,280
were really ahead of their time as far

1452
00:52:52,230 --> 00:52:50,800
as i mean they would work you could hook

1453
00:52:54,390 --> 00:52:52,240
them up to a horse now and they'd still

1454
00:52:55,349 --> 00:52:54,400
work if you could find one your size

1455
00:52:57,349 --> 00:52:55,359
and

1456
00:52:59,270 --> 00:52:57,359
they were bulletproof they might they

1457
00:53:00,390 --> 00:52:59,280
might be at the powwow oh that'd be

1458
00:53:03,589 --> 00:53:00,400
great

1459
00:53:04,950 --> 00:53:03,599
uh my guy uh he's gonna bring a handful

1460
00:53:06,870 --> 00:53:04,960
of things a

1461
00:53:08,470 --> 00:53:06,880
and i hopefully i don't you know what

1462
00:53:10,150 --> 00:53:08,480
i'm gonna put a bug in his air to bring

1463
00:53:12,230 --> 00:53:10,160
that stirrup because

1464
00:53:14,390 --> 00:53:12,240
that thing is it looks like it was built

1465
00:53:17,030 --> 00:53:14,400
yesterday made yesterday they're that

1466
00:53:19,270 --> 00:53:17,040
good shape yeah they polish right up i

1467
00:53:20,230 --> 00:53:19,280
mean they polish right up unbelievable

1468
00:53:22,549 --> 00:53:20,240
yeah

1469
00:53:24,870 --> 00:53:22,559
i've seen so dang many things i i got to

1470
00:53:26,230 --> 00:53:24,880
tell you right so we had to parallel up

1471
00:53:29,589 --> 00:53:26,240
at the canyon

1472
00:53:31,589 --> 00:53:29,599
where you were at and uh

1473
00:53:35,190 --> 00:53:31,599
this guy brought a bunch of his stuff

1474
00:53:37,030 --> 00:53:35,200
and i was so over the top excited and my

1475
00:53:38,710 --> 00:53:37,040
little girl i had a grandson who's now

1476
00:53:41,589 --> 00:53:38,720
like 21

1477
00:53:43,829 --> 00:53:41,599
and he was about 10 11 years old

1478
00:53:46,390 --> 00:53:43,839
and uh he was sitting right next to me

1479
00:53:48,870 --> 00:53:46,400
we they had picnic tables there

1480
00:53:50,870 --> 00:53:48,880
and scott was okay this was this and

1481
00:53:53,030 --> 00:53:50,880
then he passed a double line and this is

1482
00:53:54,790 --> 00:53:53,040
what this says he passed down the line

1483
00:53:57,270 --> 00:53:54,800
so he was sitting next to me and i

1484
00:53:58,390 --> 00:53:57,280
pretty much i i've seen it before we

1485
00:54:00,230 --> 00:53:58,400
started

1486
00:54:02,390 --> 00:54:00,240
and so i said zach

1487
00:54:05,430 --> 00:54:02,400
this little guy but he was always he

1488
00:54:08,150 --> 00:54:05,440
still is he was he's very uh

1489
00:54:10,150 --> 00:54:08,160
in you know he's attentive he's not just

1490
00:54:11,990 --> 00:54:10,160
out throwing rocks and you know he was

1491
00:54:13,990 --> 00:54:12,000
he's very interested

1492
00:54:16,230 --> 00:54:14,000
and so i said zach i want you to know

1493
00:54:18,390 --> 00:54:16,240
something and he said what grandpa and i

1494
00:54:20,309 --> 00:54:18,400
said listen

1495
00:54:22,150 --> 00:54:20,319
what you're going to see

1496
00:54:24,549 --> 00:54:22,160
most people never get to see their whole

1497
00:54:26,150 --> 00:54:24,559
life and i don't want you to ever forget

1498
00:54:27,910 --> 00:54:26,160
what you're going to see today

1499
00:54:30,230 --> 00:54:27,920
so we're past there was some they're

1500
00:54:32,630 --> 00:54:30,240
called finger bars gold bars

1501
00:54:33,829 --> 00:54:32,640
have you seen any of them yet ryan

1502
00:54:35,750 --> 00:54:33,839
yeah

1503
00:54:38,309 --> 00:54:35,760
and no and you know the reason for the

1504
00:54:41,430 --> 00:54:38,319
finger bars because if you're loading

1505
00:54:43,030 --> 00:54:41,440
some mule up and you got a 500 pound bar

1506
00:54:45,190 --> 00:54:43,040
you're gonna you know so they have these

1507
00:54:47,430 --> 00:54:45,200
finger bars they they were about the

1508
00:54:49,270 --> 00:54:47,440
voices are about the size of a

1509
00:54:50,630 --> 00:54:49,280
butterfinger candy bar

1510
00:54:51,750 --> 00:54:50,640
and they don't they don't look a whole

1511
00:54:53,670 --> 00:54:51,760
lot different they're a little longer

1512
00:54:55,990 --> 00:54:53,680
than that but then that way they could

1513
00:54:57,829 --> 00:54:56,000
even up the loads real easy

1514
00:55:00,630 --> 00:54:57,839
and so that's one of the reasons that

1515
00:55:02,470 --> 00:55:00,640
they would make these vessels that way

1516
00:55:03,910 --> 00:55:02,480
so we're passing these down

1517
00:55:07,670 --> 00:55:03,920
and i i

1518
00:55:10,150 --> 00:55:07,680
they a little a gold bar i you know gets

1519
00:55:12,309 --> 00:55:10,160
handed to him he looks at your hat

1520
00:55:13,990 --> 00:55:12,319
and i thought zach

1521
00:55:15,589 --> 00:55:14,000
do you know what he just said

1522
00:55:17,270 --> 00:55:15,599
and then there was there was some

1523
00:55:19,990 --> 00:55:17,280
spanish crosses

1524
00:55:21,190 --> 00:55:20,000
and you've heard of the half cross

1525
00:55:22,630 --> 00:55:21,200
i'm sure you've heard of that you've

1526
00:55:23,750 --> 00:55:22,640
seen pictures of it

1527
00:55:25,190 --> 00:55:23,760
well

1528
00:55:27,270 --> 00:55:25,200
that came to him and there's a gold

1529
00:55:29,430 --> 00:55:27,280
nugget embossed in the map

1530
00:55:30,789 --> 00:55:29,440
on the half cross and that goes by and

1531
00:55:32,950 --> 00:55:30,799
he didn't care

1532
00:55:35,990 --> 00:55:32,960
because there was a spanish sword coming

1533
00:55:37,589 --> 00:55:36,000
down hawaii and that's what and and he

1534
00:55:39,829 --> 00:55:37,599
just lit up like a christmas tree with

1535
00:55:42,309 --> 00:55:39,839
the spanish uh sword

1536
00:55:45,510 --> 00:55:42,319
hand him a gold bar yeah hannah's a

1537
00:55:49,109 --> 00:55:45,520
spanish cross with markings on it yeah

1538
00:55:51,190 --> 00:55:49,119
it just it just made me laugh i mean

1539
00:55:52,150 --> 00:55:51,200
i'd never forgotten that it just made me

1540
00:55:56,870 --> 00:55:52,160
laugh

1541
00:56:01,990 --> 00:55:59,109
now he's gonna have some of that stuff

1542
00:56:03,990 --> 00:56:02,000
i don't i know darn well he won't pass

1543
00:56:05,829 --> 00:56:04,000
these around he's going to be he's

1544
00:56:09,430 --> 00:56:05,839
speaking saturday

1545
00:56:11,190 --> 00:56:09,440
uh i uh you will i'm sure i i'm sure i

1546
00:56:14,390 --> 00:56:11,200
don't know for sure what he said he will

1547
00:56:17,510 --> 00:56:14,400
bring some artifacts i don't know

1548
00:56:20,309 --> 00:56:17,520
to what extent you can see him i'm sure

1549
00:56:21,990 --> 00:56:20,319
he was not going to let you uh manhandle

1550
00:56:24,549 --> 00:56:22,000
him and touch him and

1551
00:56:26,630 --> 00:56:24,559
you know and that's understandable

1552
00:56:29,270 --> 00:56:26,640
don't blame that and some of these

1553
00:56:30,789 --> 00:56:29,280
things i mean some of these artifacts i

1554
00:56:33,109 --> 00:56:30,799
they predate and this is what's so

1555
00:56:35,030 --> 00:56:33,119
amazing we have such a temporary

1556
00:56:37,109 --> 00:56:35,040
time on this planet as human beings and

1557
00:56:41,030 --> 00:56:37,119
some of these artifacts i've seen

1558
00:56:42,150 --> 00:56:41,040
pictures um on that uh gathering at moon

1559
00:56:44,870 --> 00:56:42,160
lake

1560
00:56:47,750 --> 00:56:44,880
uh facebook page that blow me away i

1561
00:56:50,950 --> 00:56:47,760
mean necklaces that look identical to

1562
00:56:52,870 --> 00:56:50,960
the dry fort canyon petroglyphs of

1563
00:56:54,630 --> 00:56:52,880
of the uh

1564
00:56:57,030 --> 00:56:54,640
on the main trail there

1565
00:56:59,430 --> 00:56:57,040
i mean we're talking about stuff that

1566
00:57:01,109 --> 00:56:59,440
there's there's no telling how old some

1567
00:57:03,589 --> 00:57:01,119
of these things are

1568
00:57:05,510 --> 00:57:03,599
yeah i i agree

1569
00:57:06,470 --> 00:57:05,520
i agree

1570
00:57:08,789 --> 00:57:06,480
uh

1571
00:57:10,870 --> 00:57:08,799
you know ryan i'm doing all i'm doing a

1572
00:57:14,230 --> 00:57:10,880
lot of talking here but you want another

1573
00:57:17,190 --> 00:57:14,240
one yes sir i do absolutely mark

1574
00:57:19,750 --> 00:57:17,200
we now this is on the north slope so

1575
00:57:22,309 --> 00:57:19,760
it's the opposite side of where we're at

1576
00:57:24,390 --> 00:57:22,319
uh we had a guy come to our powwow and

1577
00:57:25,430 --> 00:57:24,400
this it was fairly early on there was

1578
00:57:27,589 --> 00:57:25,440
only

1579
00:57:29,589 --> 00:57:27,599
oh a dozen people

1580
00:57:32,150 --> 00:57:29,599
and in fact this guy just passed away

1581
00:57:33,910 --> 00:57:32,160
within the last two months

1582
00:57:38,950 --> 00:57:33,920
he came

1583
00:57:40,390 --> 00:57:38,960
and uh

1584
00:57:42,789 --> 00:57:40,400
because a lot of guys didn't like this

1585
00:57:45,109 --> 00:57:42,799
guy i got along with him okay

1586
00:57:48,069 --> 00:57:45,119
but he was telling us a story

1587
00:57:50,230 --> 00:57:48,079
and my there was one of my you know

1588
00:57:52,309 --> 00:57:50,240
when we first started a lot of my subs

1589
00:57:54,390 --> 00:57:52,319
were coming to the powwow and they still

1590
00:57:56,870 --> 00:57:54,400
do a lot of them and there was a guy

1591
00:57:59,430 --> 00:57:56,880
that came and this guy was like the the

1592
00:58:01,430 --> 00:57:59,440
poster boy for uh the energizer

1593
00:58:03,270 --> 00:58:01,440
energizer bunny

1594
00:58:05,190 --> 00:58:03,280
this guy you could

1595
00:58:07,349 --> 00:58:05,200
he could hike a hundred miles a day he's

1596
00:58:09,109 --> 00:58:07,359
just that kind of guy and he was in the

1597
00:58:10,789 --> 00:58:09,119
search and rescue up and through

1598
00:58:12,390 --> 00:58:10,799
throughout the year as a long for i

1599
00:58:15,430 --> 00:58:12,400
think he still is

1600
00:58:18,230 --> 00:58:15,440
but uh so this uh

1601
00:58:20,549 --> 00:58:18,240
this guy was telling us a story

1602
00:58:21,910 --> 00:58:20,559
and uh and i'll tell you the story and

1603
00:58:23,109 --> 00:58:21,920
then i'll tell you where he just kind of

1604
00:58:24,950 --> 00:58:23,119
chirped in

1605
00:58:26,630 --> 00:58:24,960
so he there was a

1606
00:58:28,150 --> 00:58:26,640
he met this kid

1607
00:58:31,030 --> 00:58:28,160
and he would get in at their river

1608
00:58:33,270 --> 00:58:31,040
service now you know where that is

1609
00:58:36,150 --> 00:58:33,280
it's just above evanston there and this

1610
00:58:37,349 --> 00:58:36,160
kid would take guys uh fishing on

1611
00:58:39,109 --> 00:58:37,359
horseback

1612
00:58:40,710 --> 00:58:39,119
and you know you kind of like what you

1613
00:58:43,430 --> 00:58:40,720
did kind of uh

1614
00:58:46,309 --> 00:58:43,440
what do you call it uh outfitting or you

1615
00:58:47,829 --> 00:58:46,319
bet or guides or whatever so they got on

1616
00:58:49,190 --> 00:58:47,839
their horses

1617
00:58:51,190 --> 00:58:49,200
and he would take him to this lake and

1618
00:58:53,270 --> 00:58:51,200
then they'd fish and then then he would

1619
00:58:55,190 --> 00:58:53,280
they'd jump under horses and go farther

1620
00:58:56,950 --> 00:58:55,200
in and another lake and another like in

1621
00:58:59,109 --> 00:58:56,960
another lake and so they'd be gone all

1622
00:59:00,470 --> 00:58:59,119
day and then some

1623
00:59:04,390 --> 00:59:00,480
so the kid

1624
00:59:06,230 --> 00:59:04,400
probably 20 18 something like that he

1625
00:59:08,150 --> 00:59:06,240
goes you know what i'm sick of fishing

1626
00:59:09,670 --> 00:59:08,160
you guys fish and i'm just gonna go

1627
00:59:11,109 --> 00:59:09,680
messing around

1628
00:59:13,670 --> 00:59:11,119
and uh

1629
00:59:15,670 --> 00:59:13,680
i'll be back in you know two hours the

1630
00:59:16,950 --> 00:59:15,680
kid jumps on his horse

1631
00:59:20,069 --> 00:59:16,960
and he goes

1632
00:59:21,990 --> 00:59:20,079
and now i didn't understand this and i

1633
00:59:23,910 --> 00:59:22,000
was told this the other day well a year

1634
00:59:26,950 --> 00:59:23,920
or so ago i didn't realize how this

1635
00:59:28,870 --> 00:59:26,960
works the gold vein

1636
00:59:32,390 --> 00:59:28,880
like the all the mountains except for

1637
00:59:34,549 --> 00:59:32,400
the uintas which go uh east and west all

1638
00:59:36,870 --> 00:59:34,559
the others go north and south

1639
00:59:39,109 --> 00:59:36,880
in in like the whole country

1640
00:59:40,150 --> 00:59:39,119
and they said that the gold vein will

1641
00:59:42,069 --> 00:59:40,160
start

1642
00:59:43,990 --> 00:59:42,079
and it's like a snake it goes deep and

1643
00:59:45,349 --> 00:59:44,000
then it comes up and it goes deep well

1644
00:59:48,230 --> 00:59:45,359
obviously you're not going to be able to

1645
00:59:49,910 --> 00:59:48,240
get down to those deep ones but as a as

1646
00:59:52,069 --> 00:59:49,920
that vein goes up

1647
00:59:54,630 --> 00:59:52,079
it would get closer to the surface

1648
00:59:57,349 --> 00:59:54,640
and sometimes probably break the surface

1649
01:00:01,589 --> 00:59:57,359
well this kid just by chance

1650
01:00:03,829 --> 01:00:01,599
happened on an open pit spanish mine

1651
01:00:06,870 --> 01:00:03,839
and you know it was open

1652
01:00:09,589 --> 01:00:06,880
and uh so he was just thinking oh and he

1653
01:00:11,109 --> 01:00:09,599
didn't know what it was he had no idea

1654
01:00:13,190 --> 01:00:11,119
and

1655
01:00:14,630 --> 01:00:13,200
obviously it was very high in the

1656
01:00:16,549 --> 01:00:14,640
mountains

1657
01:00:19,270 --> 01:00:16,559
and uh matter of fact it's just on the

1658
01:00:21,030 --> 01:00:19,280
other side of kubernetes talking about

1659
01:00:22,870 --> 01:00:21,040
the bigfoot stuff

1660
01:00:24,950 --> 01:00:22,880
and uh

1661
01:00:26,549 --> 01:00:24,960
he sees this big old rock he said that's

1662
01:00:28,630 --> 01:00:26,559
really kind of cool

1663
01:00:30,710 --> 01:00:28,640
so he grabs it throws it in his back and

1664
01:00:32,470 --> 01:00:30,720
then he works his way back to the

1665
01:00:34,789 --> 01:00:32,480
fisherman and then they you know

1666
01:00:37,829 --> 01:00:34,799
obviously took off so he has this rock

1667
01:00:40,870 --> 01:00:37,839
didn't think much about it well this guy

1668
01:00:42,630 --> 01:00:40,880
saw heard about the story hit the kid up

1669
01:00:45,589 --> 01:00:42,640
and said uh

1670
01:00:47,750 --> 01:00:45,599
uh can i and the kid said yeah yeah

1671
01:00:49,910 --> 01:00:47,760
there it is look at it can i take this

1672
01:00:51,589 --> 01:00:49,920
and have an essay and then and the kid

1673
01:00:53,109 --> 01:00:51,599
said yeah i don't care just you know

1674
01:00:55,910 --> 01:00:53,119
give it back to me

1675
01:00:57,829 --> 01:00:55,920
so he did and the dang thing was like i

1676
01:00:59,349 --> 01:00:57,839
don't know solid gold but it had a ton

1677
01:01:02,789 --> 01:00:59,359
of gold in it

1678
01:01:04,549 --> 01:01:02,799
and i i a friend and so we're sitting

1679
01:01:06,710 --> 01:01:04,559
here at the pow wow

1680
01:01:08,309 --> 01:01:06,720
and i was looking at this like well he

1681
01:01:10,710 --> 01:01:08,319
was my plumber

1682
01:01:12,309 --> 01:01:10,720
and he was kind of making faces a little

1683
01:01:14,390 --> 01:01:12,319
bit because he was following where this

1684
01:01:15,990 --> 01:01:14,400
guy was taking them but the guy didn't

1685
01:01:17,589 --> 01:01:16,000
think anybody knew where he was at or he

1686
01:01:19,670 --> 01:01:17,599
wouldn't have gone

1687
01:01:21,670 --> 01:01:19,680
there speaking

1688
01:01:23,190 --> 01:01:21,680
because that's just the way he was he

1689
01:01:25,910 --> 01:01:23,200
he'll talk but he doesn't want you to

1690
01:01:28,549 --> 01:01:25,920
know and so jed goes

1691
01:01:30,309 --> 01:01:28,559
well now let's you know i'm making some

1692
01:01:34,069 --> 01:01:30,319
of this is there a dead tree with a big

1693
01:01:35,990 --> 01:01:34,079
rock that looks like and he goes yeah

1694
01:01:38,390 --> 01:01:36,000
and so the guy had figured out that he

1695
01:01:40,309 --> 01:01:38,400
knew right where he was at and he just

1696
01:01:41,910 --> 01:01:40,319
he's i got to go and he walked he walked

1697
01:01:43,190 --> 01:01:41,920
out and drove away

1698
01:01:44,069 --> 01:01:43,200
and we kind of looked at each other and

1699
01:01:45,910 --> 01:01:44,079
we go

1700
01:01:47,670 --> 01:01:45,920
did somebody say something that kind of

1701
01:01:50,630 --> 01:01:47,680
made him mad

1702
01:01:53,589 --> 01:01:50,640
and i get a phone call

1703
01:01:54,710 --> 01:01:53,599
who's that kid and i said well you know

1704
01:01:56,630 --> 01:01:54,720
and he goes

1705
01:01:59,270 --> 01:01:56,640
i i really like to talk to him sometime

1706
01:02:01,910 --> 01:01:59,280
maybe anyway jed told me how to get

1707
01:02:04,150 --> 01:02:01,920
there took the four-wheelers in drove up

1708
01:02:05,349 --> 01:02:04,160
to the lake where the guys were fishing

1709
01:02:07,109 --> 01:02:05,359
hiked over

1710
01:02:09,430 --> 01:02:07,119
and we kept going kept going and we

1711
01:02:12,150 --> 01:02:09,440
couldn't find it so we get home

1712
01:02:13,829 --> 01:02:12,160
and uh i call him i said he said oh

1713
01:02:14,789 --> 01:02:13,839
you're right next week just round the

1714
01:02:17,190 --> 01:02:14,799
bed

1715
01:02:19,029 --> 01:02:17,200
so we said well we'll go again and i

1716
01:02:20,390 --> 01:02:19,039
can't

1717
01:02:23,029 --> 01:02:20,400
i don't know if the forest service

1718
01:02:25,510 --> 01:02:23,039
filled the road in that we rode into

1719
01:02:27,589 --> 01:02:25,520
and re-vegetated it i don't know but i

1720
01:02:30,150 --> 01:02:27,599
can't even get to the damn lake

1721
01:02:31,349 --> 01:02:30,160
and i could scream but

1722
01:02:35,029 --> 01:02:31,359
it's there

1723
01:02:36,710 --> 01:02:35,039
and a lot of things are like that

1724
01:02:38,630 --> 01:02:36,720
they're hard to get to a lot of these

1725
01:02:39,430 --> 01:02:38,640
general areas when you're in search of

1726
01:02:42,069 --> 01:02:39,440
these

1727
01:02:44,470 --> 01:02:42,079
it's it's it's hard to exactly pinpoint

1728
01:02:46,069 --> 01:02:44,480
you know technically where they're at

1729
01:02:49,349 --> 01:02:46,079
and that's why it's so important i mean

1730
01:02:50,230 --> 01:02:49,359
i see these amazing tidbits of knowledge

1731
01:02:52,230 --> 01:02:50,240
unless

1732
01:02:54,549 --> 01:02:52,240
you have gatherings like this one that

1733
01:02:56,870 --> 01:02:54,559
you do at moon lake mark i see these

1734
01:02:58,390 --> 01:02:56,880
tidbits of information and history just

1735
01:03:00,710 --> 01:02:58,400
falling at the wayside and being

1736
01:03:02,470 --> 01:03:00,720
forgotten over time and so it's so

1737
01:03:04,950 --> 01:03:02,480
important to get like-minded people

1738
01:03:05,829 --> 01:03:04,960
together like you do

1739
01:03:07,910 --> 01:03:05,839
well

1740
01:03:11,829 --> 01:03:07,920
you know ryan it's not for our good

1741
01:03:14,870 --> 01:03:11,839
looks or and charm and ability to be us

1742
01:03:16,710 --> 01:03:14,880
it's the content and people love it it's

1743
01:03:18,630 --> 01:03:16,720
nothing to do with us we just happen to

1744
01:03:21,349 --> 01:03:18,640
be there and facilitate it

1745
01:03:22,789 --> 01:03:21,359
uh it's the content and and people love

1746
01:03:28,150 --> 01:03:22,799
it

1747
01:03:30,390 --> 01:03:28,160
that the the

1748
01:03:32,150 --> 01:03:30,400
the breadcrumbs are there caleb rhodes

1749
01:03:34,710 --> 01:03:32,160
said there was i mean that he was aware

1750
01:03:35,589 --> 01:03:34,720
of no less than seven gold mines you

1751
01:03:37,990 --> 01:03:35,599
know

1752
01:03:41,029 --> 01:03:38,000
and i mean this is fascinating to me i

1753
01:03:45,349 --> 01:03:41,039
mean it's not just one

1754
01:03:47,190 --> 01:03:45,359
well don't solder one story ryan is at

1755
01:03:49,990 --> 01:03:47,200
this one

1756
01:03:54,549 --> 01:03:52,230
one of his big minds that he

1757
01:03:57,510 --> 01:03:54,559
and the and the government

1758
01:03:59,670 --> 01:03:57,520
and you know this story as well as i do

1759
01:04:01,270 --> 01:03:59,680
he moved the government moved the

1760
01:04:04,390 --> 01:04:01,280
tribal land over

1761
01:04:05,829 --> 01:04:04,400
it got switched up

1762
01:04:08,470 --> 01:04:05,839
other than the fact that

1763
01:04:11,430 --> 01:04:08,480
it baffles me because

1764
01:04:13,510 --> 01:04:11,440
i had yeah i lost you there for a minute

1765
01:04:15,510 --> 01:04:13,520
oh i lost you there where did i lose you

1766
01:04:17,270 --> 01:04:15,520
at the the government kind of switched

1767
01:04:19,910 --> 01:04:17,280
this area up

1768
01:04:23,349 --> 01:04:19,920
yeah they moved the border lines over

1769
01:04:25,029 --> 01:04:23,359
so caleb rhodes went and uh

1770
01:04:27,430 --> 01:04:25,039
petitioned i don't know if he physically

1771
01:04:28,549 --> 01:04:27,440
went to washington dc

1772
01:04:30,390 --> 01:04:28,559
but

1773
01:04:32,549 --> 01:04:30,400
it's on the congressional record he went

1774
01:04:34,150 --> 01:04:32,559
over he says if you move those lines

1775
01:04:36,789 --> 01:04:34,160
back

1776
01:04:38,789 --> 01:04:36,799
this was probably o5 or something like

1777
01:04:40,870 --> 01:04:38,799
that he said i'll pay off the national

1778
01:04:42,789 --> 01:04:40,880
debt if you'll do that well we're not

1779
01:04:45,510 --> 01:04:42,799
going to do that he said fine see you

1780
01:04:47,990 --> 01:04:45,520
later bye and he said oh where is it he

1781
01:04:50,870 --> 01:04:48,000
goes you're never going to find it

1782
01:04:52,230 --> 01:04:50,880
and i i know you know this story riot

1783
01:04:53,750 --> 01:04:52,240
and uh

1784
01:04:56,470 --> 01:04:53,760
but so

1785
01:04:58,470 --> 01:04:56,480
our our our trustworthy government put

1786
01:05:01,109 --> 01:04:58,480
together oh i've seen pictures of it

1787
01:05:02,870 --> 01:05:01,119
there must been 30 guys on the horseback

1788
01:05:04,789 --> 01:05:02,880
to go up there to find rhodes is mine

1789
01:05:06,630 --> 01:05:04,799
this this mine

1790
01:05:08,390 --> 01:05:06,640
and uh

1791
01:05:10,549 --> 01:05:08,400
they they were up there for like you

1792
01:05:11,670 --> 01:05:10,559
know obviously because of weather they

1793
01:05:14,069 --> 01:05:11,680
were up there

1794
01:05:15,430 --> 01:05:14,079
i don't know one or two seasons and they

1795
01:05:18,390 --> 01:05:15,440
couldn't find it

1796
01:05:20,230 --> 01:05:18,400
so they uh the government moved the

1797
01:05:22,470 --> 01:05:20,240
borderline back

1798
01:05:23,910 --> 01:05:22,480
and caleb died like right at the same

1799
01:05:26,309 --> 01:05:23,920
time so

1800
01:05:29,270 --> 01:05:26,319
isn't that crazy and he was gonna pay

1801
01:05:30,230 --> 01:05:29,280
off the national debt and that is on the

1802
01:05:32,630 --> 01:05:30,240
record

1803
01:05:34,470 --> 01:05:32,640
that's not just oh you know uncle bill

1804
01:05:37,029 --> 01:05:34,480
told me that no

1805
01:05:38,870 --> 01:05:37,039
that's that's that's some serious stuff

1806
01:05:41,990 --> 01:05:38,880
there

1807
01:05:42,950 --> 01:05:42,000
you know and caleb he had a lot of a lot

1808
01:05:46,150 --> 01:05:42,960
of

1809
01:05:48,309 --> 01:05:46,160
secret mining adventures that were

1810
01:05:51,270 --> 01:05:48,319
amazing and he had that he had not only

1811
01:05:53,430 --> 01:05:51,280
the history the family and the knowledge

1812
01:05:56,309 --> 01:05:53,440
but i mean he's a great example of you

1813
01:05:58,150 --> 01:05:56,319
know just so much intelligence and

1814
01:06:00,870 --> 01:05:58,160
knowledge of the area

1815
01:06:03,910 --> 01:06:00,880
and you know as as these guys pass as we

1816
01:06:05,990 --> 01:06:03,920
all do i mean so much of it is lost and

1817
01:06:09,190 --> 01:06:06,000
it's i don't doubt it for a minute that

1818
01:06:11,270 --> 01:06:09,200
he could have paid off the national debt

1819
01:06:14,150 --> 01:06:11,280
well he didn't get a chance because they

1820
01:06:16,549 --> 01:06:14,160
were messing with him but he would have

1821
01:06:19,750 --> 01:06:16,559
that's amazing that's amazing that must

1822
01:06:23,190 --> 01:06:19,760
be one unbel well it's got to be where

1823
01:06:25,750 --> 01:06:23,200
that that snake that vein hit high

1824
01:06:28,789 --> 01:06:25,760
and they figured out where it was

1825
01:06:30,630 --> 01:06:28,799
you know it it baffles me and i've heard

1826
01:06:32,470 --> 01:06:30,640
just that and the other how did the

1827
01:06:35,190 --> 01:06:32,480
spanish find all this stuff

1828
01:06:35,990 --> 01:06:35,200
i mean and i i've been told they doused

1829
01:06:36,789 --> 01:06:36,000
it

1830
01:06:39,270 --> 01:06:36,799
which

1831
01:06:40,549 --> 01:06:39,280
is baffling to me

1832
01:06:42,069 --> 01:06:40,559
too

1833
01:06:44,470 --> 01:06:42,079
uh

1834
01:06:46,390 --> 01:06:44,480
i it's it's amazing i mean

1835
01:06:48,710 --> 01:06:46,400
but but i will tell you ryan there's a

1836
01:06:49,990 --> 01:06:48,720
lot of minds up there and not all of

1837
01:06:53,349 --> 01:06:50,000
them were good

1838
01:06:55,510 --> 01:06:53,359
uh one and uh you know one and the but

1839
01:06:57,510 --> 01:06:55,520
the ones that they would really

1840
01:07:00,470 --> 01:06:57,520
knock out uh

1841
01:07:02,309 --> 01:07:00,480
they were the real thing but then there

1842
01:07:03,670 --> 01:07:02,319
was a lot of them that were just duds

1843
01:07:05,190 --> 01:07:03,680
yeah so

1844
01:07:06,950 --> 01:07:05,200
you could find a mine and get all

1845
01:07:09,430 --> 01:07:06,960
excited that

1846
01:07:12,549 --> 01:07:09,440
they left it and you know we we just had

1847
01:07:14,789 --> 01:07:12,559
the 24th of july uh pioneer day great

1848
01:07:16,390 --> 01:07:14,799
day for utahns and

1849
01:07:18,789 --> 01:07:16,400
you know for those that that say you

1850
01:07:20,230 --> 01:07:18,799
know this stuff doesn't happen i mean

1851
01:07:22,789 --> 01:07:20,240
you've got to remember that there's a

1852
01:07:24,630 --> 01:07:22,799
statue there at immigration canyon

1853
01:07:26,630 --> 01:07:24,640
who's he there standing with other than

1854
01:07:28,789 --> 01:07:26,640
escalante and dominguez and they were

1855
01:07:29,990 --> 01:07:28,799
out there doing exactly this

1856
01:07:33,589 --> 01:07:30,000
routing

1857
01:07:34,549 --> 01:07:33,599
and mapping routes for spanish gold

1858
01:07:37,589 --> 01:07:34,559
trails

1859
01:07:39,750 --> 01:07:37,599
and it's among other things you know

1860
01:07:41,589 --> 01:07:39,760
this is going to be great and um let's

1861
01:07:43,270 --> 01:07:41,599
let's just touch base one more time on

1862
01:07:44,549 --> 01:07:43,280
the moon lake gathering the gathering of

1863
01:07:47,029 --> 01:07:44,559
moon lake

1864
01:07:49,670 --> 01:07:47,039
what days it is and and how people can

1865
01:07:51,670 --> 01:07:49,680
uh get up there get situated and take

1866
01:07:54,150 --> 01:07:51,680
part in this amazing amazing thing

1867
01:07:57,589 --> 01:07:54,160
that's been set up by you

1868
01:07:58,870 --> 01:07:57,599
well uh it's it's so we kept the name

1869
01:08:00,470 --> 01:07:58,880
moon lake

1870
01:08:02,390 --> 01:08:00,480
because we had started there and we had

1871
01:08:03,589 --> 01:08:02,400
a of all the stupid things we still had

1872
01:08:06,789 --> 01:08:03,599
our posters

1873
01:08:08,230 --> 01:08:06,799
uh but but i uh we've moved it to

1874
01:08:09,510 --> 01:08:08,240
altamonte

1875
01:08:11,510 --> 01:08:09,520
beyond

1876
01:08:15,109 --> 01:08:11,520
uh let's see it's 12th

1877
01:08:16,070 --> 01:08:15,119
and 13th of august 2022

1878
01:08:18,550 --> 01:08:16,080
and

1879
01:08:21,269 --> 01:08:18,560
they will be full days i am here to tell

1880
01:08:22,709 --> 01:08:21,279
you uh friday day

1881
01:08:25,030 --> 01:08:22,719
uh

1882
01:08:26,470 --> 01:08:25,040
so they start at five o'clock and go

1883
01:08:29,510 --> 01:08:26,480
till about 10

1884
01:08:30,950 --> 01:08:29,520
uh on the friday night saturday night

1885
01:08:33,269 --> 01:08:30,960
saturday day

1886
01:08:34,470 --> 01:08:33,279
from 10 o'clock until

1887
01:08:36,149 --> 01:08:34,480
uh

1888
01:08:37,189 --> 01:08:36,159
you know until

1889
01:08:39,749 --> 01:08:37,199
whatever

1890
01:08:40,950 --> 01:08:39,759
three or f well we won't go past three

1891
01:08:42,789 --> 01:08:40,960
because we'll have to get the

1892
01:08:43,910 --> 01:08:42,799
microphones and stuff and all that ready

1893
01:08:45,829 --> 01:08:43,920
over there

1894
01:08:47,590 --> 01:08:45,839
uh we uh

1895
01:08:51,030 --> 01:08:47,600
that will be the open mic

1896
01:08:53,510 --> 01:08:51,040
that'll be a time to uh to see what guys

1897
01:08:55,269 --> 01:08:53,520
will bring stuff uh i

1898
01:08:56,709 --> 01:08:55,279
you know obviously you can't guarantee

1899
01:08:58,709 --> 01:08:56,719
it but i would

1900
01:09:01,590 --> 01:08:58,719
that money on it because i know

1901
01:09:03,510 --> 01:09:01,600
some stuff being you know brought for

1902
01:09:05,430 --> 01:09:03,520
saturday day

1903
01:09:07,110 --> 01:09:05,440
now friday day

1904
01:09:08,550 --> 01:09:07,120
if you got there early

1905
01:09:10,229 --> 01:09:08,560
you could uh

1906
01:09:13,349 --> 01:09:10,239
go up to moon lake

1907
01:09:15,510 --> 01:09:13,359
and dan low as i hate to

1908
01:09:17,110 --> 01:09:15,520
push this button too hard because

1909
01:09:17,829 --> 01:09:17,120
he doesn't want to take a million guys

1910
01:09:20,390 --> 01:09:17,839
but

1911
01:09:23,269 --> 01:09:20,400
that's basically where many think that

1912
01:09:25,030 --> 01:09:23,279
the uh the sacred mine is

1913
01:09:27,430 --> 01:09:25,040
and uh it's

1914
01:09:29,110 --> 01:09:27,440
it got hit by the fire last year

1915
01:09:31,269 --> 01:09:29,120
there was a chicken ladder that burned

1916
01:09:33,590 --> 01:09:31,279
down that just breaks my heart that

1917
01:09:36,309 --> 01:09:33,600
sucker was probably 500 years i don't

1918
01:09:37,590 --> 01:09:36,319
know 300 years old whatever

1919
01:09:41,349 --> 01:09:37,600
and it burned

1920
01:09:44,229 --> 01:09:41,359
and uh the area a lot of the tree signs

1921
01:09:47,349 --> 01:09:44,239
have been burnt down and but he kind of

1922
01:09:48,870 --> 01:09:47,359
takes it it's just on the side it dries

1923
01:09:51,590 --> 01:09:48,880
above the lake

1924
01:09:53,269 --> 01:09:51,600
but uh he took a group last year

1925
01:09:55,510 --> 01:09:53,279
uh there's a lot you know there's a few

1926
01:09:57,910 --> 01:09:55,520
things happening there's gonna be some

1927
01:10:00,630 --> 01:09:57,920
guys doing storytelling

1928
01:10:02,709 --> 01:10:00,640
at the lodge there on friday day

1929
01:10:05,430 --> 01:10:02,719
and then you know just kind of migrate

1930
01:10:07,270 --> 01:10:05,440
over to the park friday night

1931
01:10:11,270 --> 01:10:07,280
and like you know what we ought to talk

1932
01:10:16,790 --> 01:10:12,790
and that's just so everybody knows

1933
01:10:18,870 --> 01:10:16,800
that's altamonte city park gonna talk

1934
01:10:20,630 --> 01:10:18,880
i'm sorry sorry to you cut out there for

1935
01:10:22,790 --> 01:10:20,640
just a minute

1936
01:10:25,510 --> 01:10:22,800
uh dave bullock

1937
01:10:27,270 --> 01:10:25,520
now we met dave last year

1938
01:10:28,310 --> 01:10:27,280
and it's fun because

1939
01:10:31,030 --> 01:10:28,320
uh

1940
01:10:33,270 --> 01:10:31,040
his dad dad and grandpa

1941
01:10:35,270 --> 01:10:33,280
and he was just a young boy

1942
01:10:38,630 --> 01:10:35,280
uh they were out looking for the lost

1943
01:10:40,229 --> 01:10:38,640
roads mine which is really famous mine

1944
01:10:41,430 --> 01:10:40,239
and you talked to dave and he told me he

1945
01:10:43,110 --> 01:10:41,440
said mark

1946
01:10:45,110 --> 01:10:43,120
don't be calling the lost roads mine

1947
01:10:47,430 --> 01:10:45,120
it's not lost anymore

1948
01:10:48,870 --> 01:10:47,440
and i thought wow i kind of i can't wait

1949
01:10:52,149 --> 01:10:48,880
to hear more on that

1950
01:10:55,350 --> 01:10:52,159
and then on the top off friday night

1951
01:10:57,110 --> 01:10:55,360
we have a lady that's coming to speak on

1952
01:11:01,990 --> 01:10:57,120
giants

1953
01:11:02,870 --> 01:11:02,000
the united states

1954
01:11:04,870 --> 01:11:02,880
and

1955
01:11:06,310 --> 01:11:04,880
she is really really fascinating she's

1956
01:11:09,030 --> 01:11:06,320
been doing this a few years i've heard

1957
01:11:12,310 --> 01:11:09,040
it and she is

1958
01:11:14,950 --> 01:11:12,320
amazing she knows her stuff then that

1959
01:11:17,750 --> 01:11:14,960
pushes us into saturday

1960
01:11:19,750 --> 01:11:17,760
uh okay so back on dave bullock he

1961
01:11:22,149 --> 01:11:19,760
he is a professional storyteller and

1962
01:11:24,149 --> 01:11:22,159
he's just he's just funny

1963
01:11:26,550 --> 01:11:24,159
and so friday night i think that his

1964
01:11:28,390 --> 01:11:26,560
plan is to kind of sort of like cowboy

1965
01:11:30,870 --> 01:11:28,400
poetry type of thing

1966
01:11:33,590 --> 01:11:30,880
and then uh saturday day

1967
01:11:35,750 --> 01:11:33,600
i was talking to dave because he's been

1968
01:11:37,270 --> 01:11:35,760
involved with this stuff forever

1969
01:11:39,110 --> 01:11:37,280
and he goes uh

1970
01:11:41,030 --> 01:11:39,120
well tell me about saturday day i said

1971
01:11:43,110 --> 01:11:41,040
well it's open mike and

1972
01:11:44,790 --> 01:11:43,120
ken and i had pictured there'd just be

1973
01:11:46,390 --> 01:11:44,800
groups talking you know over and he goes

1974
01:11:47,990 --> 01:11:46,400
mark mark no

1975
01:11:50,390 --> 01:11:48,000
you can't do it that way and i said well

1976
01:11:52,310 --> 01:11:50,400
what do you mean he said let me emcee it

1977
01:11:55,110 --> 01:11:52,320
and i'll kind of control it and i said

1978
01:11:56,310 --> 01:11:55,120
dave it's all yours bud you go for it so

1979
01:11:57,590 --> 01:11:56,320
he's gonna

1980
01:12:00,310 --> 01:11:57,600
mc

1981
01:12:02,149 --> 01:12:00,320
saturday days open mic

1982
01:12:05,270 --> 01:12:02,159
and then saturday night

1983
01:12:08,709 --> 01:12:05,280
there'll be uh alien dave our buddy dave

1984
01:12:10,550 --> 01:12:08,719
rosenfeld you bet who is amazing and i

1985
01:12:12,950 --> 01:12:10,560
might add about dave

1986
01:12:15,830 --> 01:12:12,960
i didn't know this until

1987
01:12:18,070 --> 01:12:15,840
a year ago that guy is the most amazing

1988
01:12:21,030 --> 01:12:18,080
artist i've ever seen in my life

1989
01:12:23,990 --> 01:12:21,040
ryan he's so talented yeah oh

1990
01:12:25,750 --> 01:12:24,000
i just i told i said dave my kids are

1991
01:12:28,070 --> 01:12:25,760
you you did this

1992
01:12:29,590 --> 01:12:28,080
and he uh yeah he's he's a an

1993
01:12:30,790 --> 01:12:29,600
intelligent

1994
01:12:33,590 --> 01:12:30,800
good guy

1995
01:12:36,310 --> 01:12:33,600
and he's into uh

1996
01:12:37,830 --> 01:12:36,320
paranormal and ufos and stuff like that

1997
01:12:40,070 --> 01:12:37,840
like dave a lot

1998
01:12:43,510 --> 01:12:40,080
okay so we got i'd say dave

1999
01:12:45,830 --> 01:12:43,520
and then we've got uh

2000
01:12:48,229 --> 01:12:45,840
let's see oh dave bullock he's gonna get

2001
01:12:50,390 --> 01:12:48,239
serious saturday night and talk about

2002
01:12:51,910 --> 01:12:50,400
like the rhodes mine and stuff

2003
01:12:53,590 --> 01:12:51,920
amazing guy

2004
01:12:55,669 --> 01:12:53,600
one two

2005
01:12:58,070 --> 01:12:55,679
well who am i missing

2006
01:12:59,669 --> 01:12:58,080
uh oh dan low was going to speak

2007
01:13:00,630 --> 01:12:59,679
dan's a low

2008
01:13:03,669 --> 01:13:00,640
damn

2009
01:13:07,189 --> 01:13:03,679
uh ryan at all he's a historian is that

2010
01:13:12,070 --> 01:13:09,510
treasure hunter but he is

2011
01:13:12,950 --> 01:13:12,080
get mad at me all you want dan that good

2012
01:13:14,950 --> 01:13:12,960
friend

2013
01:13:17,510 --> 01:13:14,960
very very knowledgeable about a lot of

2014
01:13:20,709 --> 01:13:17,520
things and treasure and the history of

2015
01:13:23,110 --> 01:13:20,719
that and then ryan we have

2016
01:13:24,390 --> 01:13:23,120
the mystery speaker oh my gosh this is

2017
01:13:27,350 --> 01:13:24,400
going to be this is going to blow

2018
01:13:30,149 --> 01:13:27,360
everybody's minds blow everybody's minds

2019
01:13:31,750 --> 01:13:30,159
now ryan don't give his name no i i sure

2020
01:13:32,709 --> 01:13:31,760
won't i sure won't

2021
01:13:36,550 --> 01:13:32,719
yeah

2022
01:13:38,149 --> 01:13:36,560
uh i went to lunch with him about five

2023
01:13:39,910 --> 01:13:38,159
weeks ago

2024
01:13:41,270 --> 01:13:39,920
and i'd heard this out in the other

2025
01:13:42,950 --> 01:13:41,280
about him

2026
01:13:44,830 --> 01:13:42,960
and i thought well yeah this you know

2027
01:13:48,229 --> 01:13:44,840
this guy's interesting

2028
01:13:50,229 --> 01:13:48,239
ryan he knocked me off my feet

2029
01:13:51,669 --> 01:13:50,239
i sat there for two hours in the

2030
01:13:54,870 --> 01:13:51,679
restaurant

2031
01:13:57,669 --> 01:13:54,880
and i had my my my my hands holding my

2032
01:14:01,910 --> 01:13:57,679
head up i was taken by him by that much

2033
01:14:04,390 --> 01:14:01,920
he's the real deal yep unbelievable guy

2034
01:14:06,630 --> 01:14:04,400
and and you know we've done some videos

2035
01:14:09,270 --> 01:14:06,640
with terry carter if you want us you

2036
01:14:11,510 --> 01:14:09,280
want to see some one-on-one terry

2037
01:14:13,350 --> 01:14:11,520
carter's uh youtube videos

2038
01:14:15,669 --> 01:14:13,360
uh there's he

2039
01:14:19,590 --> 01:14:15,679
we he does a lot of videos on this all

2040
01:14:22,550 --> 01:14:19,600
this stuff and he's done a lot on uh the

2041
01:14:25,030 --> 01:14:22,560
pow wow so if you want to see some stuff

2042
01:14:27,910 --> 01:14:25,040
go on there because he's got a bunch

2043
01:14:29,830 --> 01:14:27,920
but i don't like what

2044
01:14:33,510 --> 01:14:29,840
give me your turn your two cents worth

2045
01:14:36,070 --> 01:14:33,520
on our mystery speaker oh my gosh i i we

2046
01:14:40,070 --> 01:14:36,080
we could have a podcast just discussing

2047
01:14:41,189 --> 01:14:40,080
him he is i mean he he has so much

2048
01:14:45,910 --> 01:14:41,199
knowledge

2049
01:14:47,270 --> 01:14:45,920
said when i speak with him i'm floored

2050
01:14:49,350 --> 01:14:47,280
and

2051
01:14:51,430 --> 01:14:49,360
terry carter's another one i mean he's

2052
01:14:52,149 --> 01:14:51,440
somebody i plan on having on the podcast

2053
01:14:54,870 --> 01:14:52,159
because

2054
01:14:56,790 --> 01:14:54,880
but i mean this mystery speaker is not

2055
01:14:59,430 --> 01:14:56,800
to be missed he

2056
01:15:03,030 --> 01:14:59,440
if you have any doubts

2057
01:15:05,750 --> 01:15:03,040
about what's going on any questions or

2058
01:15:07,910 --> 01:15:05,760
uh on anything anything i mean if you're

2059
01:15:10,470 --> 01:15:07,920
wondering if this is a real deal this

2060
01:15:13,110 --> 01:15:10,480
mystery speaker is going to knock it out

2061
01:15:14,550 --> 01:15:13,120
of the park for you so definitely don't

2062
01:15:16,950 --> 01:15:14,560
miss this

2063
01:15:19,750 --> 01:15:16,960
i would walk if i had to

2064
01:15:21,270 --> 01:15:19,760
and i'll tell you ryan uh

2065
01:15:22,229 --> 01:15:21,280
maybe i shouldn't be spilling the beans

2066
01:15:25,669 --> 01:15:22,239
so much

2067
01:15:27,990 --> 01:15:25,679
but i'm really not but uh we i talked to

2068
01:15:29,990 --> 01:15:28,000
him and i said you know and here's

2069
01:15:31,430 --> 01:15:30,000
here's the kick in the teeth ryan here

2070
01:15:33,030 --> 01:15:31,440
we're doing this we've been doing it for

2071
01:15:35,270 --> 01:15:33,040
23 years

2072
01:15:37,669 --> 01:15:35,280
and so you know i come to you and i said

2073
01:15:39,189 --> 01:15:37,679
ryan we want you to speak oh by the way

2074
01:15:41,510 --> 01:15:39,199
you're not getting paid and oh by the

2075
01:15:44,229 --> 01:15:41,520
way can you get a place to stay

2076
01:15:47,110 --> 01:15:44,239
i mean if we're not offered a whole lot

2077
01:15:49,110 --> 01:15:47,120
you know and people yes absolutely i

2078
01:15:50,149 --> 01:15:49,120
want to come i want to be part of it and

2079
01:15:52,709 --> 01:15:50,159
i thought

2080
01:15:54,229 --> 01:15:52,719
i kind of felt bad about our mystery

2081
01:15:55,750 --> 01:15:54,239
speaker because i thought

2082
01:15:56,870 --> 01:15:55,760
same thing well you're not going to get

2083
01:15:58,709 --> 01:15:56,880
paid and

2084
01:16:01,030 --> 01:15:58,719
and uh you know you got you have you got

2085
01:16:02,550 --> 01:16:01,040
a place to stay well he's he's like on

2086
01:16:04,070 --> 01:16:02,560
the motor home so

2087
01:16:07,830 --> 01:16:04,080
we're going to stay in the same place

2088
01:16:10,070 --> 01:16:07,840
there and i i'm on my knee thinking that

2089
01:16:12,470 --> 01:16:10,080
you know like before things get rolling

2090
01:16:15,189 --> 01:16:12,480
this is going to be a busy weekend

2091
01:16:17,910 --> 01:16:15,199
just to have some good bs time with him

2092
01:16:20,790 --> 01:16:17,920
one on one or ten on one as long as i'm

2093
01:16:22,390 --> 01:16:20,800
one of the one-on-ones or whatever

2094
01:16:25,030 --> 01:16:22,400
the guy

2095
01:16:29,030 --> 01:16:25,040
absolutely takes me yeah

2096
01:16:31,669 --> 01:16:29,040
well when we were i i i will tell you

2097
01:16:34,229 --> 01:16:31,679
when we were at uh at the lunch

2098
01:16:36,390 --> 01:16:34,239
he was talking about stuff i i had never

2099
01:16:38,790 --> 01:16:36,400
ever ever heard about

2100
01:16:40,390 --> 01:16:38,800
and and we were and i was just

2101
01:16:42,070 --> 01:16:40,400
enthralled by it

2102
01:16:45,910 --> 01:16:42,080
but i told him i said

2103
01:16:47,830 --> 01:16:45,920
i said this is too heavy for our guys

2104
01:16:49,750 --> 01:16:47,840
i and i'm not i'm not saying that our

2105
01:16:52,470 --> 01:16:49,760
guys are dumb it's just this is

2106
01:16:54,709 --> 01:16:52,480
this is too deep we've got to mellow

2107
01:16:56,229 --> 01:16:54,719
this out a little bit because nobody's

2108
01:16:59,350 --> 01:16:56,239
going to follow you

2109
01:17:01,510 --> 01:16:59,360
and uh oh really and i said oh yeah

2110
01:17:04,070 --> 01:17:01,520
this is you know we're treasure hunters

2111
01:17:06,310 --> 01:17:04,080
we're guys looking in the sky

2112
01:17:08,709 --> 01:17:06,320
chasing bigfoot for heaven's sakes

2113
01:17:10,310 --> 01:17:08,719
so he said well we'll go into this

2114
01:17:11,910 --> 01:17:10,320
and i

2115
01:17:14,870 --> 01:17:11,920
when we did the video the other day i

2116
01:17:18,229 --> 01:17:14,880
said terry goes no no no no don't say it

2117
01:17:20,470 --> 01:17:18,239
i we're gonna no and i said okay i won't

2118
01:17:23,669 --> 01:17:20,480
but he's gonna go into something that i

2119
01:17:26,950 --> 01:17:23,679
knew very very very little about

2120
01:17:30,310 --> 01:17:26,960
and i've heard and it is

2121
01:17:32,470 --> 01:17:30,320
it's world shattering really

2122
01:17:34,310 --> 01:17:32,480
yeah he may have to dumb it down for

2123
01:17:36,390 --> 01:17:34,320
guys like me because he has such a

2124
01:17:38,149 --> 01:17:36,400
working knowledge technically of not

2125
01:17:40,310 --> 01:17:38,159
only what's going on but the the

2126
01:17:42,550 --> 01:17:40,320
background stuff that's causing it and

2127
01:17:43,750 --> 01:17:42,560
it's just it's gonna be amazing i just

2128
01:17:46,630 --> 01:17:43,760
can't wait

2129
01:17:47,910 --> 01:17:46,640
i would walk if i i would walk up there

2130
01:17:49,510 --> 01:17:47,920
to catch him

2131
01:17:50,870 --> 01:17:49,520
i mean i've heard all the rest and i

2132
01:17:52,950 --> 01:17:50,880
love them all and

2133
01:17:55,750 --> 01:17:52,960
and they're all great and they're all

2134
01:17:57,590 --> 01:17:55,760
equal to him in their field but this guy

2135
01:17:59,350 --> 01:17:57,600
for some reason this guy just knocks me

2136
01:18:01,270 --> 01:17:59,360
off my feet

2137
01:18:03,430 --> 01:18:01,280
yeah and i'm not over selling that

2138
01:18:05,990 --> 01:18:03,440
either no not at all i know you aren't

2139
01:18:08,149 --> 01:18:06,000
you really aren't he is uh

2140
01:18:10,149 --> 01:18:08,159
you're i you're preaching to the choir i

2141
01:18:12,470 --> 01:18:10,159
couldn't agree more and he is

2142
01:18:14,790 --> 01:18:12,480
what an amazing person to have as a

2143
01:18:16,229 --> 01:18:14,800
mystery speaker and i think it's great

2144
01:18:17,750 --> 01:18:16,239
that you're keeping him as a mystery

2145
01:18:19,750 --> 01:18:17,760
speaker because

2146
01:18:22,070 --> 01:18:19,760
it is going to pay off in droves when

2147
01:18:25,030 --> 01:18:22,080
when people hear this guy talk it is

2148
01:18:28,470 --> 01:18:25,040
going to drop i mean it's he he's just

2149
01:18:30,550 --> 01:18:28,480
gonna drop knowledge bombs on everyone

2150
01:18:33,189 --> 01:18:30,560
i i hope we i hope we can give him

2151
01:18:35,830 --> 01:18:33,199
enough time how's that mm-hmm

2152
01:18:38,790 --> 01:18:35,840
i uh i could listen to him for five

2153
01:18:40,709 --> 01:18:38,800
hours straight easily easily and like

2154
01:18:43,350 --> 01:18:40,719
like i said i just want to get a

2155
01:18:44,870 --> 01:18:43,360
one-on-one with him or a two-on-one as

2156
01:18:47,830 --> 01:18:44,880
long as he's the one

2157
01:18:50,149 --> 01:18:47,840
and well when we went to lunch i had

2158
01:18:52,470 --> 01:18:50,159
known about his background

2159
01:18:55,430 --> 01:18:52,480
and which fascinated me

2160
01:18:57,590 --> 01:18:55,440
and i i threw a couple quickies at him

2161
01:18:59,910 --> 01:18:57,600
and he just rolled right into it

2162
01:19:01,990 --> 01:18:59,920
and and took it farther than i had you

2163
01:19:03,270 --> 01:19:02,000
know i

2164
01:19:04,870 --> 01:19:03,280
what a guy

2165
01:19:07,990 --> 01:19:04,880
it's going to be a it's going to be a

2166
01:19:10,070 --> 01:19:08,000
great gathering mark and i'm so i'm so

2167
01:19:12,870 --> 01:19:10,080
happy to be a part of it and i think

2168
01:19:14,950 --> 01:19:12,880
it's so just uh noble that you guys have

2169
01:19:17,590 --> 01:19:14,960
been doing this for so long bringing the

2170
01:19:19,030 --> 01:19:17,600
best and brightest minds for free to

2171
01:19:20,149 --> 01:19:19,040
people that are interested in this

2172
01:19:23,189 --> 01:19:20,159
subject

2173
01:19:26,229 --> 01:19:23,199
and again it's altamonte city park

2174
01:19:28,550 --> 01:19:26,239
and uh definitely be there if you can if

2175
01:19:30,709 --> 01:19:28,560
you can carve away time listeners

2176
01:19:31,669 --> 01:19:30,719
definitely be there it's not to be

2177
01:19:32,550 --> 01:19:31,679
missed

2178
01:19:34,790 --> 01:19:32,560
um

2179
01:19:36,790 --> 01:19:34,800
a lot of bang for your buck and and it's

2180
01:19:38,790 --> 01:19:36,800
free there's no buck it's it's just a

2181
01:19:41,030 --> 01:19:38,800
lot of bang

2182
01:19:43,030 --> 01:19:41,040
one thing though to ryan that i have got

2183
01:19:45,590 --> 01:19:43,040
to stress

2184
01:19:48,630 --> 01:19:45,600
we are really hoping that people will

2185
01:19:50,229 --> 01:19:48,640
donate last year we covered everything

2186
01:19:52,870 --> 01:19:50,239
we've got the park we've got porta

2187
01:19:55,110 --> 01:19:52,880
potties uh if you don't want to pay you

2188
01:19:57,350 --> 01:19:55,120
know donate don't but i'm telling you it

2189
01:19:59,990 --> 01:19:57,360
would really really really help us

2190
01:20:01,110 --> 01:20:00,000
because we're into it over a thousand

2191
01:20:03,030 --> 01:20:01,120
bucks

2192
01:20:05,030 --> 01:20:03,040
and this thing could die real quick if

2193
01:20:06,390 --> 01:20:05,040
kent and i are coughing up a ton of

2194
01:20:08,629 --> 01:20:06,400
money but

2195
01:20:10,629 --> 01:20:08,639
uh all in all it's free but i will tell

2196
01:20:13,270 --> 01:20:10,639
you for dang sure

2197
01:20:14,950 --> 01:20:13,280
bring a chair hello bring a chair don't

2198
01:20:17,189 --> 01:20:14,960
come without a chair

2199
01:20:19,590 --> 01:20:17,199
and uh friday night last year got a

2200
01:20:22,629 --> 01:20:19,600
little nippy at night saturday night was

2201
01:20:25,030 --> 01:20:22,639
amazing it was just perfect weather so

2202
01:20:25,990 --> 01:20:25,040
you would be well advised to bring a

2203
01:20:27,270 --> 01:20:26,000
hoodie

2204
01:20:28,629 --> 01:20:27,280
and a chair

2205
01:20:29,510 --> 01:20:28,639
and but mark

2206
01:20:31,350 --> 01:20:29,520
the chair

2207
01:20:33,669 --> 01:20:31,360
sorry to interrupt you where do you have

2208
01:20:35,430 --> 01:20:33,679
a website or how do you recommend people

2209
01:20:36,470 --> 01:20:35,440
donate

2210
01:20:38,070 --> 01:20:36,480
well

2211
01:20:40,149 --> 01:20:38,080
you know we've talked

2212
01:20:41,990 --> 01:20:40,159
we've talked about that and

2213
01:20:44,229 --> 01:20:42,000
we don't want to get all we're doing is

2214
01:20:47,189 --> 01:20:44,239
covering cops we're not here to make

2215
01:20:48,310 --> 01:20:47,199
money and so they said that you can kind

2216
01:20:51,430 --> 01:20:48,320
of get your

2217
01:20:53,430 --> 01:20:51,440
uh but no a sling if you're doing uh

2218
01:20:57,270 --> 01:20:53,440
over you know so we're just doing it

2219
01:20:59,350 --> 01:20:57,280
there sure we we we have an uh a raffle

2220
01:21:00,709 --> 01:20:59,360
uh i i don't know tickets will be two

2221
01:21:03,189 --> 01:21:00,719
bucks whatever

2222
01:21:05,669 --> 01:21:03,199
we have there was an artist in new york

2223
01:21:07,189 --> 01:21:05,679
that used to be one of our powwow boys

2224
01:21:08,229 --> 01:21:07,199
and we've been trying to get him to move

2225
01:21:10,070 --> 01:21:08,239
back

2226
01:21:11,590 --> 01:21:10,080
i don't know how much time you got left

2227
01:21:13,830 --> 01:21:11,600
how much time we got left we're just

2228
01:21:15,990 --> 01:21:13,840
wrapping up but we we can do let's cover

2229
01:21:17,189 --> 01:21:16,000
it absolutely this is absolutely worth

2230
01:21:20,550 --> 01:21:17,199
covering

2231
01:21:23,830 --> 01:21:20,560
he's he's made a lot of guys make pens

2232
01:21:26,390 --> 01:21:23,840
but he's made pins and he's put uh

2233
01:21:27,669 --> 01:21:26,400
bigfoot on it and i mean it is there's

2234
01:21:30,070 --> 01:21:27,679
it's amazing

2235
01:21:32,550 --> 01:21:30,080
it is just amazing and then we've got

2236
01:21:35,830 --> 01:21:32,560
some guys that have done some iron work

2237
01:21:39,270 --> 01:21:35,840
you know like a a fire starter thing

2238
01:21:41,910 --> 01:21:39,280
and uh kent has got a bunch of uh

2239
01:21:44,149 --> 01:21:41,920
old coins that that will be part of the

2240
01:21:45,510 --> 01:21:44,159
raffle like 50 cent pieces and stuff

2241
01:21:46,470 --> 01:21:45,520
like that

2242
01:21:48,550 --> 01:21:46,480
uh

2243
01:21:50,870 --> 01:21:48,560
but we're hoping the raft

2244
01:21:51,750 --> 01:21:50,880
we're gonna have to be selling popping

2245
01:21:53,350 --> 01:21:51,760
water

2246
01:21:55,830 --> 01:21:53,360
and stuff you know one of the little

2247
01:21:59,350 --> 01:21:55,840
bottles of water we just want to cover

2248
01:22:00,709 --> 01:21:59,360
our our hardcore our hard our hard

2249
01:22:02,550 --> 01:22:00,719
you know line

2250
01:22:05,510 --> 01:22:02,560
and and you know

2251
01:22:07,830 --> 01:22:05,520
that's our play that's all

2252
01:22:09,750 --> 01:22:07,840
magical stuff man magical stuff you're

2253
01:22:11,110 --> 01:22:09,760
doing mark i appreciate it and i can't

2254
01:22:14,070 --> 01:22:11,120
thank you enough for coming on the

2255
01:22:15,910 --> 01:22:14,080
podcast today we'll all enjoyed it we'll

2256
01:22:17,510 --> 01:22:15,920
have to talk again soon and i can't wait

2257
01:22:20,310 --> 01:22:17,520
to see you in person

2258
01:22:22,870 --> 01:22:20,320
yeah we'll see you in oh golf like three

2259
01:22:24,870 --> 01:22:22,880
weeks i think right yeah it's coming up

2260
01:22:26,390 --> 01:22:24,880
quick coming up two and a half three

2261
01:22:28,950 --> 01:22:26,400
weeks something like yeah

2262
01:22:30,709 --> 01:22:28,960
yeah i enjoyed it ryan i appreciated uh

2263
01:22:32,390 --> 01:22:30,719
talking to you and always like talking

2264
01:22:34,390 --> 01:22:32,400
to you we'll have a great rest of your

2265
01:22:36,310 --> 01:22:34,400
day and we'll talk again soon my friend

2266
01:22:37,189 --> 01:22:36,320
okay see you later right

2267
01:22:40,790 --> 01:22:37,199
mark

2268
01:22:43,750 --> 01:22:40,800
is the man he always has

2269
01:22:46,070 --> 01:22:43,760
the answers to any questions i have

2270
01:22:48,390 --> 01:22:46,080
he's been doing this for so long he

2271
01:22:50,310 --> 01:22:48,400
cares about the subject matter he just

2272
01:22:51,669 --> 01:22:50,320
wants to pass the baton to younger

2273
01:22:54,870 --> 01:22:51,679
generations

2274
01:22:57,270 --> 01:22:54,880
keep the keep that spark lit

2275
01:23:00,149 --> 01:22:57,280
for inquiring minds wanting to know

2276
01:23:02,870 --> 01:23:00,159
about utah history and the magical

2277
01:23:03,669 --> 01:23:02,880
places where this is all taking place

2278
01:23:08,950 --> 01:23:03,679
the

2279
01:23:11,510 --> 01:23:08,960
magical uintah basin of utah

2280
01:23:13,669 --> 01:23:11,520
all places that cannot be ignored when

2281
01:23:14,790 --> 01:23:13,679
it comes to treasure hunting

2282
01:23:15,990 --> 01:23:14,800
giants

2283
01:23:18,149 --> 01:23:16,000
bigfoot

2284
01:23:22,470 --> 01:23:18,159
magical dirt

2285
01:23:25,350 --> 01:23:22,480
utah gold i mean this is the gathering

2286
01:23:27,030 --> 01:23:25,360
it is the gathering of moon lake forward

2287
01:23:29,669 --> 01:23:27,040
slash

2288
01:23:30,950 --> 01:23:29,679
morgan powwow if you're looking on

2289
01:23:34,870 --> 01:23:30,960
facebook

2290
01:23:37,590 --> 01:23:34,880
and um it is going to take place at

2291
01:23:39,030 --> 01:23:37,600
altamonte city park

2292
01:23:41,189 --> 01:23:39,040
and um

2293
01:23:43,590 --> 01:23:41,199
yeah you definitely need to be there

2294
01:23:44,470 --> 01:23:43,600
it's coming up real soon

2295
01:23:46,310 --> 01:23:44,480
and

2296
01:23:49,510 --> 01:23:46,320
you you don't want to miss it so the

2297
01:23:52,470 --> 01:23:49,520
exact dates of this 12th

2298
01:23:55,030 --> 01:23:52,480
and the 13th of august

2299
01:23:58,310 --> 01:23:55,040
and it is again

2300
01:24:00,950 --> 01:23:58,320
the gathering at moon lake it is at

2301
01:24:03,030 --> 01:24:00,960
altamonte city park these guys have

2302
01:24:04,790 --> 01:24:03,040
covered all the costs

2303
01:24:07,350 --> 01:24:04,800
it's 100

2304
01:24:09,430 --> 01:24:07,360
free it's not one of these

2305
01:24:12,229 --> 01:24:09,440
conventions where they have high ticket

2306
01:24:14,390 --> 01:24:12,239
prices and these are actors no these are

2307
01:24:16,709 --> 01:24:14,400
people boots on the ground in utah

2308
01:24:18,709 --> 01:24:16,719
they've been doing this a long time

2309
01:24:20,950 --> 01:24:18,719
and they're not in it for the money they

2310
01:24:24,310 --> 01:24:20,960
are just in it to

2311
01:24:27,350 --> 01:24:24,320
be speakers confirm what we already know

2312
01:24:29,270 --> 01:24:27,360
give more information and it's a great

2313
01:24:31,669 --> 01:24:29,280
way to make connections with the people

2314
01:24:35,270 --> 01:24:31,679
that are really the backbone of all of

2315
01:24:37,110 --> 01:24:35,280
these interesting interesting topics

2316
01:24:38,149 --> 01:24:37,120
i highly recommend it

2317
01:24:42,550 --> 01:24:38,159
again

2318
01:24:45,430 --> 01:24:42,560
it is august 12th and 13th

2319
01:24:47,590 --> 01:24:45,440
and it is at altamont city park

2320
01:24:49,990 --> 01:24:47,600
in the uintah basin

2321
01:24:51,430 --> 01:24:50,000
in utah

2322
01:24:53,510 --> 01:24:51,440
be there

2323
01:24:55,990 --> 01:24:53,520
until next time keep your eyes to the

2324
01:25:05,930 --> 01:24:56,000
skies feet on the ground and don't

2325
01:25:05,940 --> 01:25:25,110
[Music]

2326
01:25:29,790 --> 01:25:27,830
off in my time machine third eye feeling

2327
01:25:34,180 --> 01:25:29,800
like an